Posted on 05/30/2007 10:11:32 PM PDT by goldstategop
There is a good flourescent bulb brand I can recommend - Ott-Lite.
Those compact fluorescents are for the birds. I have only two types of lighting. Real fluorescents in kitchen and garage/workshop and incandescent everywhere else. I much prefer reading with an incandescent bulb.
Some of the real fluorescents are full spectrum and some of the incandescents are GE Reveal or the Phillips equivalent. These bulbs are full spectrum or close to it
“Disposed” is an interesting word. It means, “to arrange in an orderly way”. Think of being “indisposed” or to have something “at your disposal”. “Garbage disposal” is actually a euphemism.
So to be recaptured, recycled and reused is certainly a form of disposal just as much as dumping in a landfill.
Enviroweenies are one dimensional thinkers. They cannot think more than one step ahead.
This is not just with CFLs, either. Everything liberals deal with and make policy on is done on emotion, not logic. They are ALWAYS surprised when something doesn’t turn out as they expected, and that happens a lot.
Pretty sure that was Ikon, not Ikea.
Ikea is in a much different “space”.
RLM,
Conservatism (in my opinion) is the intersection of critical thinking and emotional maturity, it looks like they have not obtained either of them.
What is the basis of your claim?
And yet people have been disposing of the tube flourescent bulbs in normal trash for years, even though they have a much larger (although still minimal) amount of mercury.
Imagine the scare we could have telling people that if that shop light bulb in their garage falls on the floor, they may have to hire a specialist to clean the mercury vapor out of their cars.
Of course, those batteries in the solar lamps also must be disposed of in a special manner, at a special recycling center, because they have harmful chemical/metals.
Of course, all batteries are supposed to be disposed of in a special manner, not just rechargeables, because of the chemicals and metals.
Also paint, oil, and your home computer, pda, and other electronics.
You shouldn’t throw your old cell phone out either.
You need a thermoacoustic refrigerator.
I am going to bury mine if Farrah's back yard.
“ten bucks apiece at a dollar store”
I got pissed when the Five and Dime started charging me a quarter!
This is more left wing B.S. the amount of mercury in the bulbs is so small it is not worth worrying about. This is scare is probably paid for by a company like GE or Phillips. That said LED lights are the future.
ping, thanks for the post.
There's nothing wrong with caring about G-d's creation. It's when someone goes off the deep end that it is a problem.
Unfortunately, respect for the environment has been pegged as a "liberal" thing, and now people seem to be anti-environment just to be anti-liberal.
Brownfield redevelopment and minimizing air, landfill, and water pollution does NOT mean Hillary and Nancy win, unless one INSISTS on defining it that way!
I had to look up what the suggested method of CFL disposal is in Connecticut (one of the states that are considering a ban on incandecent bulbs). Here is what the CT dept of environmental protection says:
“Business and other non-residential generated mercury lights are subject to state hazardous waste laws and regulations that prohibit their disposal in the solid waste stream. CFLs and other fluorescent lighting generated by residents are exempt from these disposal restrictions. However, the Department strongly encourages residents to recycle their lamps through town drop offs and household hazardous waste collections. By recycling your burned out CFLs, you help keep mercury out of our environment.” (source: http://www.ct.gov/dep/cwp/view.asp?a=2708&q=378846)
My read on this: In Connecticut, there is a household hazardous waste collection schedule. You need to know when and where to go by checking on the DEP website. The larger cities have about 10 collection days a year. Towns typically have one day a year. Small town residents need to travel to larger towns.
IOW - it is a major hassle to dispose of a CFL light bulb. Since it is not illegal to simply throw them in the trash, I’m guessing that 95% of the residents will simply throw them in the trash.
So what have the environmentalists done? They’ve substituted a fake problem (global warming) with a real problem (mercury contamination of landfills).
Consumers and businesses have been disposing of full-size fluorescent tubes straight into the garbage truck, where they usually get broken immediately (presumably releasing the considerably-larger than 2 or 3 mg of mercury they contain) long before they reach the landfill.
It has also been pointed out that much of our power is generated from burning coal, in which mercury emitted, and that over the lifespan of the CFL the reduced electrical power consumed could actually eliminate more mercury from being released to the environment. But then some bulbs may not get used all that much before they get disposed of. Maybe they can reduce the mercury contained to an even smaller amount, maybe .5 to 1 mg?
And, finally, I agree that banning incandescent bulbs at this point is stupid, unnecessary, and premature. What are you supposed to use in your fridge, or oven? How about spot and floodlights? Is this going to affect the availability of halogen bulbs, too? There are no fluorescent substitutes for most of those applications. And don’t tell me about LED lighting - they’re not even close to being ready for prime-time for most purposes.
“get fressed in the dark “
I actually like getting fressed in the dark!
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