Posted on 05/30/2007 9:06:11 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
Last week didnt seem to be an inordinately busy news week. There was the normal amount of domestic stories and exposes and all the negative news the media could dig up out of Iraq. The one big story, immigration, will be with us for a while as politicians use the issue for political posturing before having to actually deal with it. Yes, there was violence in Gaza and Sderot and some good news about the surge in Iraq, but those things rarely get much space or last longer than a day or two. A pretty normal week.
Thats why we were surprised that what we thought was the momentous story of the previous week didnt extend further than its initial mention. The Pew Poll of the attitudes of Muslims living in America revealed the alarming extent of their discontent and disconnect with our culture. Except for superficial front-page exposure for a day or two, Pew seems to have gone away. The Connecticut Jewish Ledger isnt the place where you usually get this kind of news, but in the absence of it elsewhere, we thought wed review a few of the Polls findings.
Up until this survey, no one has authoritatively detailed the Muslim population in the United States. Thereve been estimates and assertions, but Pew was the first to do the work of counting heads with standard polling methods. The numbers they came up were not derived from other sources.
After years of blustering from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Pew tells us there are probably around 2.35 million Muslims here, most arriving since 1990. Thats about a third of the 7 million-8 million figure that CAIR throws around when it tries to make the case for robust Muslim political power. Investors Daily captured the essence of this revelation when it said that the population number that weve come to accept is the Wahhabi lobbys big lie. CAIR couldnt deliver even 2 million voters if it tried. According to Pew, just 1.5 million Muslims are of voting age.
Also important is what 25 percent of Muslim males between the ages of 18 and 29 think about using violence to make a point. Victor Davis Hansen says the poll tells us one of four young Muslim Americans expressed approval of the tactic of suicide bombing. Pew doesnt say that there are some 200,000 believers who are ready to strap on explosives and blow up school busses and restaurants as do their soul mates in places like Israel, Bombay, London or Spain, but it tells us there are around 200,000 simpatico with the idea. This is more than enough to provide a sea (using Mao Tse-tungs analogy), in which these true believers can swim. Our own home grown malcontents, acting individually, have given us massacres like Columbine and Virginia Tech, and in those instances there werent thousands on the sidelines ready to nurture and nourish them while they planned and prepared their coming atrocities.
One more finding: 60 percent of the Muslims polled said they didnt believe that Arabs were responsible for blowing up the World Trade Center on September 11. Hansen: Six of 10 assured us [Pew] that no Arab Muslim was involved in September 11. Mr. Atta, you see, still lives in that apartment in Cairo with his loving father (the polls) findings translate into many hundreds of thousands of Muslims living the good life here in the United States who are either unhinged or favor the ideology of suicide bombing.
We thought this startling information, so why the fast fade from the front pages? Columnist Diana West says that the mainstream media is so wedded to its multicultural belief systems that it cant bring itself to recognize what numbers like these say. Multiculturalism preaches that all civilizations are the same, all religions are the same, all peoples are the same. The Pew results, meanwhile, tell them something else again.
Great article! Thanks for posting.
Multiculturalism preaches that all civilizations are the same, all religions are the same, all peoples are the same. The Pew results, meanwhile, tell them something else again.
The crazy thing about the liberals and their multiculturalism meme which has resulted in the current state of affairs is that were a truly Islamic state to be established, the liberals and their wicked ways would be some of the first to face the Islamists’ sick justice...
Drive-By media was quoted as saying “But this poll does not fit the template of “everything is George Bushs’ fault”. Therefore, it is NOT worthy of recognition.”
‘One more finding: 60 percent of the Muslims polled said they didnt believe that Arabs were responsible for blowing up the World Trade Center on September 11. Hansen: Six of 10 assured us [Pew] that no Arab Muslim was involved in September 11. Mr. Atta, you see, still lives in that apartment in Cairo with his loving father (the polls) findings translate into many hundreds of thousands of Muslims living the good life here in the United States who are either unhinged or favor the ideology of suicide bombing. “
35% of Americans apparently believe the same thing from polling data I’ve seen recently.
Then there are the ‘kooks r us’ websites promoting ridiculous theories like ‘WTC Building 7’....to the point these wacked out sites have banned the term ‘kook’ as my tagline denotes from personal experience.
BTTT for those who may not have seen it..........
Robert Spencer’s (jihadwatch) take here...
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/29/jihad-watch-the-thickening-fog-of-war/
Hooray Robert! Hooray Michelle!
This article misrepresents the findings of the poll.
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf
On suicide bombing:
8 percent find it is often or sometimes justified (not 25 percent)
On 9-11:
28 percent do not believe Arabs carried out the attack (not 60 percent)
Here’s what disturbs me ...
70 percent want bigger government (as opposed to 43 percent of general population)
59 percent want government to do more about morality (as opposed to 37 percent of the general population)
In other words, the general public slightly leans in the libertarian direction, whereas American Muslims strongly leans in the populist-conservative direction.
Potentially, Republicans can appeal to populist-conservatives, by emphasizing moral issues such as homosexual marriage, but not so strongly as to turn off libertarian-conservatives, even though populist-conservatives are suspicious of or outrightly opposed to free markets and the global economy.
(Populist-conservatives can be attracted to the Republican candidate especially when the choice comes down to Hillary or the Republican in the general election.)
BUT ... according to this poll, only 11 percent of Muslims are or lean Republican (as compared to 36 percent of the general public).
(63 percent of Muslims are or lean Democrat, as compared to 51 percent of the general public.)
So, the Muslims break toward to Democrats not because of traditional economic or social issues, but because they’re conflicted, religiously and possibly ethnically (i.e., by tribal thinking), by the War on Terrorism.
Way back in 2000, we got about 40 percent of the Muslim vote; but, following 9-11, they’ve shifted big-time to the Democrats.
Fortunately, they’re a miniscule 0.6 percent of the population.
Surveys indicate that, despite the overwhelming advantage the Democrats have over us in party affiliation, Rudy Guiliani and, to a lesser extent, John McCain still out-poll the other side’s best candidates.
Let us hope all this nonsence of not profiling, bugging et al of Islamic mosques is a lie. Frankly, I do not trust Muslims who DO NOT SPEAK OUT AGAINST ISLAMOFASCISM on a regular level. This may be bias but so be it. I know what Europe is like having traveled there and my guess is that most nations allowing all these Muslim immigrants in would change their minds today. I wonder why this new Immigration Bill doesn’t bring this up: quotas for ME immigrants??????
Does anyone think that this will lead to a moratorium on Muslim immmigration ?
No, we're opening up the floodgates to another 7000 from Iraq, and you can bet that Persecuted Iraqi Chaldean Christians won't be given preference.
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