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To: kempo

No, the job surplus isn’t “only” at the bottom of the scale, but that’s where the big numbers are.

WRT doctors and nurses in particular, there’s a *whole different* issue specific to them that IMHO is not getting nearly enough attention. There’s a definite shortage developing for doctors and nurses, and it’s not about immigration. It’s been developing for years and it’s about medicare, malpractice insurance and a host of other things killing off our medical system. It’s a little off-topic, but it needs to start getting attention.


184 posted on 05/31/2007 8:39:09 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

You said: No, the job surplus isn’t “only” at the bottom of the scale, but that’s where the big numbers are.

WRT doctors and nurses in particular, there’s a *whole different* issue specific to them that IMHO is not getting nearly enough attention. There’s a definite shortage developing for doctors and nurses, and it’s not about immigration. It’s been developing for years and it’s about medicare, malpractice insurance and a host of other things killing off our medical system. It’s a little off-topic, but it needs to start getting attention.
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We are at full employment definitionally with under 5% unemployment. Every American who wants a job can get one. Some non-skilled labor and a fair amount of construction and tradesmen work IS going to Hispanic immigrants, legal and illegal, but if there were Americans wanting to do this work, willing to work hard and put in an honest day’s work, they’d get the nod over immigrants (legal and illegal) every time. The fact is, too many of us have grown fat and happy with how easy life is here, some of us to the point that we didn’t try hard in school and make the most of the opportunities presented to us. Now some, challenged by immigrants’ willingness to do that work, even for less pay, don’t like it. There is no excuse, even with illegal immigrants here, for anyone not to succeed in America. Of course it would have been easier if there were more people with a real work ethic and resolute determination to get ahead. It is hard to blame uneducated non-English speaking immigrants for coming here and beating natives on their home field.

That said, our porous borders are a danger to everyone here. They MUST be closed. Those here illegally should be sent back or heavily punished for their lawbreaking. Let them come back under a guest worker program legally. Cut out welfare and other entitlements for non-citizens (oh yeah, and cut out voting too). The truly industrious ones will stay, and we can always use more hard workers to help pull wagon that many American citizens seem to want to ride in.


193 posted on 05/31/2007 11:55:07 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Ramius
It’s been developing for years and it’s about medicare, malpractice insurance and a host of other things killing off our medical system. It’s a little off-topic...

It's not necessarily off-topic. If we could deport all of our accident lawyers, crooked politicians and accident lawyers who are crooked politicians to another country or maybe just a tiny island in the middle of the ocean, we could solve so many of our most pressing problems...
215 posted on 06/04/2007 4:46:39 AM PDT by Maurice Tift
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