Posted on 05/30/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by avacado
Teaching has nothing to do with it. You rep is rendered useless because he belongs to a party that gave its base the middle finger.
Considering how eager the GOP is to pass this terrible legislation into law, I'd say that voting for Republicans just because they are Republicans is a pretty stupid thing to do. While they may not control both houses any longer (and remind me why they didn't tackle this issue aggressively when they did control both houses) they could stop this bill dead if they wanted to. The GOP doesn't want to, and therefore won't.
But it’s Bush and the Republicans who are pushing this amnesty thing, not the Democrats. The Democrats are just coming along for the ride. So, tell me again how kicking out some RINOs in 2006 hurt the conservative cause?
I voted a straight Repub ticket in 2006-now I don’t know if I would bother to vote. I won’t vote for any Repub who voted for the amnesty bill or who supports it for sure.
You are full of it when you say the republicans in both houses were voting against amnesty. Ever hear of McCain for example, not to mention hagel and a few others? We had a lot of them voting for amnesty last year. You are twisting in the wind with your bull sh**. The 2006 elections didn't ensure amnesty, our idiot president who is really a globalist liberal is doing that. We didn't vote him in BECAUSE of his stand on amnesty but despite it. Besides that the SOB kept saying he wasn't for amnesty and is lying like a dog about this bill claiming it isn't amnesty. Bush has sold us out, instead of bitching about your senator bitch to Bush about his amnesty bill and tell him to stop selling us down the river.
As for what did I expect you ignorant a**, I voted for the republicans I could in 2006 but living in CA I didn't get a big choice, thanks to the gutless GOP we have here in the so called Golden State.
I EXPECT ALL republican senators and house members to vote againts amnesty instead of kissing the butt of the Dems. I EXPECT a republican president to veto a bill of this sort.
Evidently you expect republicans to act like liberals and you are fine with that. Maybe you should vote Democrat in '08, sounds like you might be happier with their logic since you have the same type of warped thinking.
Then you said: As a computer scientist that is some logic that will never prove true to me.
What "logic" made you conclude that your representatives were "being "taught a lesson" by ultra-conservatives"?
Other than the pro-amnesty RNC blame-it-on-the-conservatives talking points, I've seen no evidence to support such a "conclusion."
Civil war
Ahh. Life's minor pleasures.
Judging posts on FR depends on the contents, the arguments employed, other than unsubstantiated opinion, and the clarity of expression.
If that is done well, no "credentials" should ever be necessary.
After a while, people just "know".
Last year the Senate - the REPUBLICAN - controlled senate passed the same kind of amnesty nonsense bill.
All I know is I just gave some little girl in Mel Martinez’s office hell today. He’s committed to this POS legislation, so I realize he can’t change his vote, but I will never vote for him again and as a resident of my district for more than 50 years I think I can influence a few of his constituents to do likewise.
Dirt - I like how you use your logic to disassemble this nonsense. I have been chuckling for the last 20 minutes reading responses to the original tripe presented. “Master of the Boolean Universe” - ROTFLMAO!!!
avacado - I have an asbestos flame suit, slightly charred, but used only once in the past 3 months, for sale - cheap!!
I have here a tinfoil hat that I haven't worn in a while.
My theory is not that Republicans have jettisoned their principles; it's that those 800+ FBI files found in her heinousness' White House bedroom (for which she was never prosecuted) continue to have their magic effect.
What I find remarkable is that not a single man of principle in the Republican Party has fallen on his sword and ignored the blackmail anyway.
That's the only thing that prevents me from wearing that hat more often.
Why are WE letting anybody destroy OUR party?
I think that whole "teaching republicans a lesson" theory in '06 is way overblown, and is nothing more than a pathetic attempt at trying to blame conservatives for the republican loss. It's total BS. I don't know of anyone personally or here on FR that voted that way. I think people keep bitching about "teaching them a lesson" because they are in denial of the Republicans in DC being as pathetic they were during the last couple of years. Stop trying to blame the conservatives for what's happening right now. Conservatives along with the republican base voted for the GOP last year as they always have, the problem is no one else did.
You also have to consider all of the dems who ran to the right of the republicans. That certainly didn't help.
I was in error when I was not clear that my observation about “teaching a lesson” was actually based on what I read in this forum. I have no scientific poll data to back it up. I was just going by what I read over and over and over in here about “teaching” the Republicans a “lesson.” So it surprised me that they were surprised that amnesty passed.
I never see any conservatives taking credit for deep-sixing Congress, but all you have to do is check out the liberal and moderate (read Country Clubbers', Gays', "Oprah-type" abortion supporters') Republican blogs to see that prior to the '06 election, they threatened to sit out the election, and afterward, they took credit for bringing the Republicans down. Now they are claiming that if they can't take back "their" party in '08 by dumping all the social conservatives and getting a liberal Presidential candidate, (guess who?) they will vote Democrat.
Lol. Classic but true.
>>The President, from the first day, has been for an immigration package like this. He was honest about it and pulled no punches.<<
He also promised to enforce our laws.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best answer of them all!
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