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To: PissAndVinegar

Yes, I am. Right now the only high-mileage, high-performance vehicles I can get are foreign and I prefer to buy American. When Detroit quits whining, they can make the same.


7 posted on 05/30/2007 7:00:18 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40
Yes, I am. Right now the only high-mileage, high-performance vehicles I can get are foreign and I prefer to buy American.

So, you want the government to force Detroit to make the kind of vehicle you want when market forces are driving them the other way?

15 posted on 05/30/2007 7:09:01 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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Not true. Throught the 90s, Chevy offered the Metro which got an honest 50 MPG, and Ford the Festiva which got in the high 40s. They’re not bad cars. Did you consider buying one?

High mileage means small. Wish it weren’t so, but it is. If you look at Europe, the cars with the best MPG are small - very small.

Compare the 07 Accord and Fusion. They get nearly the same mileage.

17 posted on 05/30/2007 7:10:48 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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Right now the only high-mileage, high-performance vehicles I can get are foreign and I prefer to buy American. When Detroit quits whining, they can make the same.

Speaking of high-performance vehicles, perhaps some engineers out there can help me understand this.

In the latest issue of Car & Driver magazine, there's an article titled "20 cars worth waiting for", or something like that. Among the cars listed were the new/retro versions of the Dodge Challenger and Chevy Camaro (both of which are slated for a modern V-6, as well as a V-8 engine option). The description of each not-yet-introduced vehicle had a "What could go wrong" comment, where production had or may have hit a snag.

For both of the above vehicles, as well as the new rear-wheel-drive Chevy Impala, there was a comment that the new proposed new CAFE standards had either put that vehicle "on hold" (the Impala) or was raising concern with regard to rear-wheel-drive vehicles in general (Challenger and Camaro).

It appears that GM has been trying to finally wriggle free of the "four versions of the same FWD car" strategy, but the new CAFE regs are likely to kill their efforts to re-shape the model line-up.

Assuming similar aerodynamics, gearing, engine displacement and tuning, and identical final-drive ratios... why should a rear-wheel-drive car be less fuel-efficient than its FWD counterpart?

I sure wish I could buy a RWD or AWD hot-rod like Ford of Europe's 1990's-era Escort Cosworth. That would be a small car that might entice me to give up my V-8. I drove a "taildragger" once; never again.

75 posted on 05/30/2007 12:43:37 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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