Trust the DHS? The agency that lied to congress about Ramos/Compean under oath?
Posted on 05/29/2007 9:15:20 PM PDT by JLS
Would this be an acceptable Immigration reform bill:
1. Fund all of the fence previously authorized. All the triggers for hiring and enforcement in the current bill still hold and must be certified by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
2. Allow any working illegal immigrants currently in the US apply for guest worker status. Guest worker status to be granted to illegal immigrants with an otherwise clean criminal record. The fine for past violations of the immigration laws will be reduced to $1,000. After all the fine no longer leads to a path to citizenship. This is now a financial transaction.
3. Reserve citizenship only for children of citizens born anywhere and children of legal permanent residents born in the US. Explicitly, say children born in the US to temporary workers and visitors are NOT US citizens.
4. Cut off all federal funding to any city that refuses to enforce federal immigration law or in any other way acts to encourage illegal immigration.
5. Explicitly state that temporary immigrant workers are not eligible for unemployment compensation, food stamps and general welfare benefit, but are eligible for emergency medical care.
6. Require that businesses check the new data base for employees and that businesses maintain some minimum of health insurance on temporary immigrant workers.
7. Require that all voters in elections federal, state or local be US citizens and show ID at the polls.
1. Gives the left, getting these people "out of the shaddows."
2. Gives the right, an end to anchor babies and better border and election security.
3. Gives business, it work force.
So Freepers and others would you support such a bill? What would you add to or subtract from such a bill?
A moratorium on immigration would be acceptable.
Post your vanity in the Personal or General section, not the News site.
1) Fund and GUARD the previously authorized fencing, actively enforcing it.
2) Open up guest worker status for Mexicans, Brazilians, Poles but open the application centers in Mexico, Brazil and Poland.
3) Give temporary amnesty to any illegal alien in the United States that turns in their employer - Fines of $40,000 per illegal worker will be used to fund the hundreds of remote application centers for those living illegally in the United States, and to pay for the huge bill of accurately fingerprinting, and background checking the illegal before granting guest worker status to the whistleblowers.
I’d say that’s a good start.
I live in a world filled with migrant workers.
Here’s the reality:
None that I know are in the least interested in US citizenship on the terms proposed by Bush.
They DO like the worker visa program — for now. They hope to return to Mexico some day — which they consider much warmer, kinder, more decent and caring, and more civilized.
I know this to be true.
And we are supposed to give the socialists something because?........
There needs to be government agencies fully funded to deport any illegals or guest workers or amnestied illegals who do not comply
Full and complete computer database of all those who enter on visas and when they depart or stay here illegally. They need to be deported too once they violate terms of entry
The conservatives in congress need to just stand firm and defeat the attempts of the dems to grant the illegals amnesty. Make them leave first, then let the dems try to scam the public for amnesty.
The LEGAL citizens don't want any amnesty for the illegals, the want our borders secure.
Here’s the reality:
None that I know are in the least interested in US citizenship on the terms proposed by Bush.
Are they interested in Z VISA and green cards?
They DO like the worker visa program — for now. They hope to return to Mexico some day — which they consider much warmer, kinder, more decent and caring, and more civilized.
I know this to be true.
It's not true. Many will stay and never return
All illegal aliens have ten months to get their ass over the border and apply from Mexico for immigration to this country.
If you are found here after ten months, you are thrown in a detention camp, and forcibly deported. Also, you lose the right to immigrate to the US forever.
We then decide how many people are needed each year and choose those according to their skills.
The fence gets finished—all 700 miles of it. The rest is manned by the US Army until the fence is extended. Anyone brandishing a weapons at US forces gets shot at.
All prisoners of foreign extraction in our prison system get sent to their home country(it’s cheaper than incarceration) and forever banished from being able to immigrate to the US in the future. That alone will save California $ 8 billion in new prison construction.
Remittances to foreign countries will be taxed at ten percent. Still a bargain.
Oh, and let’s lose the “come out of the shadows” baloney. They are not in the shadows.
Sorry we can't be more civilized and caring while they're stealing our money. Wish they would see us as kind.
Perhaps if we gave them $5 dollars in benefits for every dollar they make instead of $dollars we would appear kinder to them.
So you opt for my point one, fund the fence and the additional funding, but otherwise accept the status quo?
Come out, come out of the shadows poor victims. That means you too, drug dealers, bank robbers, molesters..... ;)
LOL!
The left gets soemthing from reform, because without that you don’t get my proposed bill and in my proposal you don’t get an end to anchor babies, secure elections and an end to sancutary cities. The left likely would not accept all of that anyway, but I wonder what Freepers would accept to get an end to anchor babies, secure electios and santuary cities.
I think the negotiators clearly did not get the GOP base enough to avoid great opposition to the current bill. I want to know if this proposal or something like it would have worked.
1. Lock down the borders (per existing laws).
2. Enforce the laws and prosecute & fine employers for hiring illegals.
3. Get rid of the anchor baby provisions.
4. Stop all the freebies for illegals (non-emergency medical, schooling, welfare, etc.)
5. Anyone who hasn't "self deported" and is caught here (1st time), gets their DNA into a database before being deported to go get in line to do it right. If they're caught here, being illegal, after that, then not only are they barred (for life from entry), but the members of their family as well. Criminals (bangers, drug dealers, human traffickers, etc.) don't get ANY second chances!
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