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Posted on 05/29/2007 6:58:01 PM PDT by gpapa
But many doctors would and do. My father, after living with lymphoma for 19 years, gradually lost control of every bodily function. At the end he could no longer see (the tumors had distended his eyelids and they wouldn’t close), talk (he could make noises but did not have speech) or swallow. I spoke to him by phone shortly before he passed away. That night my mother realized he needed the morphine that the VA doctors had recommended and signed the authorization. He died shortly after the morphine was given. I suspect they OD’d him but absolutely do not want to know for sure. All I could think about was that his suffering had ended. Neither I nor anyone in my family could have helped him end his life and he would never have asked that of us. I suspect you are wrong about the AMERICAN PUBLIC. Most of us could never participate in the ending of a life.
So, I paraphrased the Oath but it does say, in a variety of ways, to do no harm. Why have so many doctors gone astray? And whatever you think about the polls on this, polls are nothing but media manipulation to get the results the media wants. The media and left-wing journalists are for euthanasia. The people who thought Michael Schaivo was right to do what he did were thinking about themselves. Nobody has ever answered my question, when did Terri articulate her desire to die? Because the last time I looked, her husband was getting over a million dollars because he convinced a judge that she wanted to live.
Rant done. Good night.
But many doctors would and do. My father, after living with lymphoma for 19 years, gradually lost control of every bodily function. At the end he could no longer see (the tumors had distended his eyelids and they wouldn’t close), talk (he could make noises but did not have speech) or swallow. I spoke to him by phone shortly before he passed away. That night my mother realized he needed the morphine that the VA doctors had recommended and signed the authorization. He died shortly after the morphine was given. I suspect they OD’d him but absolutely do not want to know for sure. All I could think about was that his suffering had ended. Neither I nor anyone in my family could have helped him end his life and he would never have asked that of us. I suspect you are wrong about the AMERICAN PUBLIC. Most of us could never participate in the ending of a life.
So, I paraphrased the Oath but it does say, in a variety of ways, to do no harm. Why have so many doctors gone astray? And whatever you think about the polls on this, polls are nothing but media manipulation to get the results the media wants. The media and left-wing journalists are for euthanasia. The people who thought Michael Schaivo was right to do what he did were thinking about themselves. Nobody has ever answered my question, when did Terri articulate her desire to die? Because the last time I looked, her husband was getting over a million dollars because he convinced a judge that she wanted to live.
Rant done. Good night.
It is not the duty of doctors and nurses to end the lives of their patients. It is their duty to preserve the lives of their patients. It is immoral to kill another person or help another person commit suicide. Now it is understandable if they tell the doctors to deny extraodinary means or efforts, or if the need to be comfortable requires medication that may hasten death.
I agree with one poster that remarked suffering has a place in human life. If one is Christian, one is taught to unite one’s suffering with Christ’s suffering on the cross. Suffering is a part of humanity that can bring us closer to Christ. Some people believe that suffering makes one undignified, but all humans suffer. No human has a perfect life, some just suffer more than others. To say that suffering takes away dignity, takes away the dignity of every person on Earth.
If your lone obsession is to die, maybe.
A more farsighted person would choose a physician who could tell the difference between a depressed brain talking and a patient talking.
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What do they mean Doctor assisted suicide? Don’t they mean executioner assisted suicide?
Wow - just wow. Have you ever seen anyone dying of cancer and in intense pain? They have wasted away from the "treatments" and once strong men now weigh 100lbs and every moment of their life is agony.
You really think that giving a patient like this a little extra morphine to end the suffering is playing god?
This "I'm a christian soldier" crap has to end.
Yet cancer patients in hospice who have wasted away feel very uncomfortable with visitors and don't want people to see them in that state.
If suffering is such an honor, then shouldn't they want everyone to see them?
Just curious, according to your sect, if a person is diagnosed with cancer but chooses not to undergo treatment, are they committing suicide?
Every time I read the term “doctor-assisted suicide” the first thing that pops into my head is that a doctor must be pretty incompetent if he needs help killing himself.
If you give a drug to end someones life prematurely....that is murder. No matter how you justify it. Christian soldier?? I am believer and so my foundation is rooted firmly in God's WORD. When someone is ill.....are they in their right state of mind....are they really able to make educated, well informed choices? What really has to end is this concept of "choice". This is a slippery slope. There is no difference between aborting a baby and killing a sick person.
Hey if someone wants to take a gun to themselves or OD that is their choice but I do not want state sanctioned assisted suicide laws.
I have to ask how assisted suicide differs from abortion?
Well, I’m sure they don’t want people to see them because it is natural for people to only want people to see them when they look their best. A lot of women don’t even want people to see them without their make up on and hair done. People with cancer may feel embarrased because they aren’t “fixed up” so to speak, they look ill, and they may have lost a lot of weight. Really, it’s easier said than done, but a person should not feel ashamed for not looking well when they are ill.
If a person has cancer and decides that he/she would not like chemo, radiation, or some other forum of treatment, that is not suicide. That person just didn’t feel treatment would help or be of benefit to them. If a person is in a lot of pain and needs a good deal of morphine, that may hasten death, but it in itself is not assisted suicide.
There are some denials of treatments that could be considered suicide and immoral. For example, if a generally healthy person with diabetes gets depressed one day and stops taking insulin to die, that would be considered suicide.
What we are opposed to, though, is direct medication through asssited suicide or euthanasia to end a person’s life prematurely.
My exit strategy is to take out a few MADD mothers (of either sex), then as many nicotine, seatbelt and food Nazis as I have ammunition for, then challenge some sort of SWAT team to a shootout.
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Funny, I haven't heard any poll figures for THAT question :-) It does put things into perspective. Why do let them practice medicine if they use medicine to kill? Why do we even call them doctors if they turn into murderers?
Hmmmm.
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