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Bush Attacks Immigration Deal Opponents
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PE5LPO0&show_article=1 ^ | 5/29/07 | BEN FELLER

Posted on 05/29/2007 10:15:03 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0

GLYNCO, Ga. (AP) - President Bush attacked opponents of an immigration deal Tuesday, suggesting they “don’t want to do what’s right for America.”

“The fundamental question is, will elected officials have the courage necessary to put a comprehensive immigration plan in place,” Bush said against a backdrop of a huge American flag.

He described his proposal—which has been agreed to by a bipartisan group of senators—as one that “makes it more likely we can enforce our border—and at the same time uphold the great immigrant tradition of the United States of America.”

Bush spoke at the nation’s largest training center for law enforcement.

He chose the get-tough setting as conservative critics blast a Senate proposal as being soft on people who break the law. Hoping to blunt that message, Bush emphasized that any new options for immigrants and foreign workers would not start until tougher security is in place.

The presidential stop came during a congressional recess, with senators back home and facing pressure from the left and right on the immigration plan. Bush’s aim is to build momentum for the legislation, perhaps his best chance for a signature victory in his second term. The Senate expects to resume debate on it next week.

“A lot of Americans are skeptical about immigration reform, primarily because they don’t think the government can fix the problems,” Bush said.

“And my answer to the skeptics is: give us a chance to fix the problems in a comprehensive way that enforces our border and treats people with decency and respect. Give us a chance to fix this problem. Don’t try to kill this bill before it gets moving,” Bush told students and instructors at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.

Bush repeatedly cast the matter as one of political courage.

“Those determined to find fault with this bill will always be able to look at a narrow slice of it and find something they don’t like,” the president said. “If you want to kill the bill, if you don’t want to do what’s right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it.

“You can use it to frighten people,” Bush said. “Or you can show leadership and solve this problem once and for all.”

The bill would give temporary legal status to millions of unlawful immigrants, provided they came forward, paid a fine and underwent criminal background checks. To apply for a green card, they would have to pay another fine, learn English, return to their home country and wait in line.

The plan also would create a guest worker program. It would allow foreign laborers to come to the U.S. for temporary stints, yet with no guarantee they can eventually gain citizenship.

Both the new visa plan and the temporary worker program are contingent on other steps coming first. Those include fencing and barriers along the Mexico border, the hiring of more Border Patrol agents and the completion of an identification system to verify employees’ legal status.

The legislation would also reshape future immigration decisions. A new point system would prioritize skills and education over family in deciding who can immigrate.

Georgia’s senators both played leading roles in producing Bush’s deal with the Senate. Yet they have also said they may not support the final bill, depending upon how it is amended.

Bush chastised those who say the proposal offers amnesty to illegal immigrants. He called it empty political rhetoric.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arrogantrino; bush; bushlegacy; civilwar2; corporateblackmail; cutandrunvote3p; deafrino; georgewbush; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; jorgesfolly; lamerinopresident
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Comment #381 Removed by Moderator

To: Theodore R.
Dole is much more conservative than anyone thought. Maybe it’s her mother’s influence on her.

Phfftt. Her looming re-election campaign, is more like it. She's as wishy-washy as they come.

382 posted on 05/29/2007 2:57:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: F15Eagle

Couldn’t agree more with ya on that point. Heavy, heavy fines for any that employee illegals. It’s gonna hurt the hell out of many pocket books up front, but the long term “pricetag” and blessing those 20-some-odd million is gonna deep-six the country, no two ways about it.


384 posted on 05/29/2007 2:58:52 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (If Rudy is the GOP's guy, I'm voting for Hillary. Hey, why do anything half ass?)
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To: ZULU
THAT is what made America great - not slave labor.

LOL! That's surely up for debate.

385 posted on 05/29/2007 2:59:09 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

We, the people, know best what is right for America, Mr. P., and it looks like it isn’t you.

>...will elected official have the courage necessary to put a comprehensive immigration plan in place?<

The question is, Mr. P., will elected officials have the audacity necessary....

Not if they value their jobs.


386 posted on 05/29/2007 3:00:45 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: M203M4

Mr. President, how dare you foul the image of the United States flag to point your finger in our faces, to tell us we are un-American because we reject your ANTI-American flim-flam.

Please step away from the flag. You have reached a new low.

387 posted on 05/29/2007 3:05:38 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Club liberals, not seals.)
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To: ZULU

>>2) Cut off all Federal aid to any local or state juridiction which refuses to cooperate in enforcing immigration laws<<

This bill explicitly protects such local or state govts. It’s so bad we can devine what special interest groups had their say in the secret meetings. I doubt Bush has even read the bill.


388 posted on 05/29/2007 3:06:53 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: KeyLargo

I’ve heard that illegal aliens have murdered as many American citizens as troops who have died in Iraq. Over 3000 not counting 9/11! Who said the war wasn’t on American soil yet?


389 posted on 05/29/2007 3:07:10 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Why is Bush doing this?

If it’s because he really does think that he can solve the issue, he’s deluded.

If it’s because he’s been a “New World Order” Open Borders republican all along, he has mastered the big lie and he would have gotten to this early in his presidency, but 9/11 put a stop to it and he had to go chase his daddy’s chimera, Iraq.

Here’s what I think. He’s a principled man who is wrong on immigration and Iraq. He’s spent much of his time strategizing for the middle east, and, like his dad, he neglected the home front and took things for granted. He honestly felt that he could bring democracy into the middle east but he neglected to consider tribal politics in the mix, he didn’t consider how many followon forces it would take (police, nurses, doctors, infrastructure workers) in order to rebuild the country because he thought the Iraqis would do it. He ignored 2 of the more prevalent rules for understanding the middle east.

15 rules for understanding the Middle East
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1774248/posts

Rule 8: Civil wars in the Arab world are rarely about ideas — like liberalism vs. communism. They are about which tribe gets to rule. So, yes, Iraq is having a civil war as we once did. But there is no Abe Lincoln in this war. It’s the South vs. the South.

Rule 10: Mideast civil wars end in one of three ways: a) like the U.S. civil war, with one side vanquishing the other; b) like the Cyprus civil war, with a hard partition and a wall dividing the parties; or c) like the Lebanon civil war, with a soft partition under an iron fist (Syria) that keeps everyone in line. Saddam used to be the iron fist in Iraq. Now it is us. If we don’t want to play that role, Iraq’s civil war will end with A or B.

GWB really does look for that golden 3rd alternative between the horns of a dilemma, but sometimes it does not exist and it will kill you like a third rail on an electric train. GWB honestly does believe that there is a “rational middleground alternative” in the immigration debate, because he’s been neglecting domestic politics for several years, just like his dad did. When he actively pursued this rational middleground, he found few listeners in the republican party other than those who want to bring down labor rates, and he started listening to democrats. This character trait he has, where he takes his own counsel, has become a blind side that allows his enemies to drive right up alongside him. He has painted himself into a corner, just like his dad. Now he’s so worried about his legacy that he is desparate for approval from across the aisle and they will use this to hurt conservativism and prop up democratic voting ranks for 2 generations.


390 posted on 05/29/2007 3:10:29 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Did you know that we, the conservative critics, are trying to scare the American public about the illegal immigration bill?.

You didn't know this?

President Bush said this today in one of his speeches...

Just heard this on Fox News!

391 posted on 05/29/2007 3:14:41 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Paperdoll
I’ve heard that illegal aliens have murdered as many American citizens as troops who have died in Iraq. Over 3000 not counting 9/11! Who said the war wasn’t on American soil yet?

Over 3000 per YEAR, paperdoll. According to Cong. Poe, Congressman Steve King, and several others, they state.....

Biting the Hand That Feeds You

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1755469/posts

"There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamines that plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of meth by 80%. The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day. Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals. Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds to anchor babies, to imported diseases to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals. Eight American children would not suffer the horror as a victim of a sex crime."

392 posted on 05/29/2007 3:15:30 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Jason_b

BTTT for later read


393 posted on 05/29/2007 3:16:15 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

It will break your heart.


394 posted on 05/29/2007 3:20:20 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Guenevere

Thanks for the warning....I think.


395 posted on 05/29/2007 3:21:13 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

This is not the first time that Bush’s pig-headed stubborness has caused big problems for the USA.


396 posted on 05/29/2007 3:23:54 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Brad's Gramma
Sweetie, according to Fox News, President Bush said today that

..WE, the 'conservative critics' of this bill, are trying to scare the American public.

That breaks my heart.

397 posted on 05/29/2007 3:24:05 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Guenevere

Well, Guennie...if trying to wake people up to what’s happening .... is scaring the American public ... I guess that’s what a bunch of us have been doing for years.

Apparently not too successfully, either.....

Now I’m leavin’ for a bit. Ping me...to stuff. :)


398 posted on 05/29/2007 3:26:22 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Yes Ma’am, I will :)


399 posted on 05/29/2007 3:27:05 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0; PresidentBush
With all due respect Mr President. This bill is worse than amnesty. Genuine amnesty requires the benefactors there of to turn from their crimes and live within the law. (Kinda like when we are saved by grace)

This bill instead rewards the felons and throws a one fingered salute at everyone who is waiting in line to immigrate here legally and at the laws they are respecting and honoring.

The law of the land requires that these 20 million illegal aliens be deported. When those we elected and trusted to enforce the immigration laws of this land, tell us they have ignored enforcement of our laws for so long that enforcement is no longer possible, they are confessing to being unfit for the job.

Adjusting the laws to appease the felons, as this bill darn well does, is an invitation to anarchy.

Along with deporting these felons, oldest felons first. We need to deport every politician in DC, back to where they came from. Those who have been there the longest, first.

400 posted on 05/29/2007 3:27:11 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Will 20 million legalized illegals voting for Dems, allow the dead to finally RIP on election day?)
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