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It's about time someone takes on the numerous "victimization" titles like ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia and on and on and on so commonly used today. These titles rarely make people stronger, just victims with excuses about why I can't do this or that. Believe me, I've seen it.
1 posted on 05/29/2007 3:55:35 AM PDT by mek1959
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To: mek1959

So General Patton was stupid......
and I think Churchill was too...
you can tell them, ok.


2 posted on 05/29/2007 3:57:57 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: mek1959

IF this is true, then one would assume that dyslexia could be corrected through special teaching methods.


3 posted on 05/29/2007 3:59:10 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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Dyslexics Untie!

Thank Dog I’m not dyslexic.


4 posted on 05/29/2007 3:59:18 AM PDT by dawn53
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I thought Nelson Rockefeller was dyslexic. He may have been stupid (but I doubt it) but he wasn’t middle class.


5 posted on 05/29/2007 3:59:56 AM PDT by bkepley
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I’m not dyslexic, I just can’t lleps.


8 posted on 05/29/2007 4:01:25 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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It’s terrible having dyslexia. Take it from someone who accidentally sold their soul to Santa.


9 posted on 05/29/2007 4:01:40 AM PDT by tlb
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To: mek1959
“It’s about time someone takes on the numerous “victimization” titles like ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia and on and on and on so commonly used today. These titles rarely make people stronger, just victims with excuses about why I can’t do this or that. Believe me, I’ve seen it.”

DITTO!

It’s a bunch of bunk for others to feed off of via “special programs” at YOUR expense. It’s an industry designed to siphon money off STUPID PEOPLE!

10 posted on 05/29/2007 4:02:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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I think these things are casually diagnosed. A lot of people with ADD and ADHD just suffer from poor parenting. But it's going to far to say that the problems are wholly fictional.

Dyslexia, for one thing, is often linked with the style of reading instruction. Phonics is a good way to teach people to see and understand each part of the word. Rates of dyslexia go down. But Whole Language teaches people to swallow the shape of the word and then pronounce it. Rates of Dyslexia go up.

12 posted on 05/29/2007 4:05:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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According to Professor Elliott, dyslexic university students are gaining an unfair advantage by getting extra time for their studies and many are getting diagnosed simply to get up to £10,000 worth of equipment including laptops and extra books.

University lecturers have complained about students “milking the system” by pretending they have the condition.

One lecturer who teaches in the South-East said:

“On one degree course I teach, about one quarter of the students get help with their coursework and other assistance because they have this label. You become quite cynical.”

The number of students who receive disability allowances at university has risen to a record 35,500 at a cost of £78.4million a year.


13 posted on 05/29/2007 4:05:49 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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> Dyslexia is a social fig leaf used by middle-class parents who fear their children will be labelled as low achievers, a professor has claimed.

Dyslexia is very much a real phenomenon, as is ADHD. Neither is a handicap, as both my brother and I can attest. They have absolutely nothing to do with intelligence or achievement potential. They are merely inconvenient for standard teaching methodologies.

*DieHard*


14 posted on 05/29/2007 4:08:24 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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Whatever happened to that perfect word, “underachiever”?
If I hadn’t been slapped with that in the third grade, I’d probably still be slaking off.


18 posted on 05/29/2007 4:11:34 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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The reseracher has no cule about dylsexics.


19 posted on 05/29/2007 4:12:32 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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One of my husbands was severely dyslexic. Being a high achiever in a field where reading wasn’t critical, he took it with his usual good humor when I LMAO watching him undergo an eye test. (You had to be there.)

Dyslexic people can be highly intelligent. They just have trouble reading. Maybe at some early point this could have been remedied, and wasn’t. Maybe not. But it’s real.


22 posted on 05/29/2007 4:20:38 AM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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So now I’m to believe dyslexia doesn’t exist because it is poorly defined and/or isn’t well addressed by educational organizations? Then what the hell is “stupidity”? It seems to me the term “stupidity” is no less poorly defined and/or well addressed by educational organizations. I’d have to be stupid to accept such a simplistic dismissal of something as complex as dyslexia as mere middle-class self-indulgence. It also seems to me that merely dismissing dyslexia is in itself a gross self-indulgence on the part of those who don’t want to incur the extra expense of paying for individual differences in learning styles.


23 posted on 05/29/2007 4:22:27 AM PDT by rhombus
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This is nothing more than a cheap shot at a real problem by someone who wants attention the easy way. Neal Bortz goes off the deep end on purpose sometimes just to get the phones ringing. I hope the ringing this person hears is from a concussion caused from a Dyslexic person trying to swing a baseball bat the other way.
32 posted on 05/29/2007 4:31:43 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Dyslexia is a very over-used term, but it does not qualify a child for special education services so it is not used as a label in US schools as it apparently is in UK schools. What happens here is that someone will claim a child has dyslexia when they see them turning around numbers or writing backwards. That is not dyslexia, that is a completely different issue.

Dyslexia is a true impairment that affects every means of communication including reading, writing, and speaking. It is also quite rare. In 10 years of special education and reading instruction, I have taught exactly 1 true dyslexic. This child struggled in every area, but demonstrated marked intelligence with numbers. He is a high school sophomore and is taking Calculus BC this year and will have to start at the local junior college soon to keep his math going. I'd see him doing Calc III before 18. BUT, he reads at about a 4th grade level and speaking for him is obviously painful. He almost needs another language approach, one that uses numbers instead of letters.

I'm not sure what means the UK uses to come with the term 'dyslexic' but here in the U.S. it is not a federally recognized category for special education services, so we hear it in anecdotes, not in labels.

34 posted on 05/29/2007 4:38:10 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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victims with excuses

Nice compassion. Sorry to burst your superiority bubble, but such neurological symptoms as dyslexia have been tied to underlying chronic Lyme disease, and go away when the Lyme is treated.

44 posted on 05/29/2007 4:58:28 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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“It’s about time someone takes on the numerous “victimization” titles like ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia and on and on and on so commonly used today.”

Wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard some parent decry, “He’s got ADD!”. Everytime the kid gets in trouble or fails, that’s the excuse these days. Sad, really.


45 posted on 05/29/2007 4:59:09 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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Poor parent, front and center, right here.

My DH, SIL and FIL are dyslexic. So is my oldest kid. This was not a casual label that we slapped on my kid to get her special treatment in school. She had that tendency; her kindegarten and first grade teachers were inexperienced; and the school uses a hashed up method of teaching reading. She struggled until 3rd grade until her teacher — an older lady who used a different teaching method — tried to pick up the pieces. DD is now in the top reading group in her class and over the school year came in 3rd out of her whole grade for readign achievement.

The emotional fall-out of being considered “learning disabled” or “special ed” for an intelligent child is not worth any little breaks she might get.

She wants to be an astronaut and be one of the first settlers on the noom or sraM


46 posted on 05/29/2007 4:59:42 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Children are a blessing ...)
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It's about time someone takes on the numerous "victimization" titles like ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia and on and on and on so commonly used today.

Some may game the system as victims. However, dyslexia is real. While in law school, I clerked for a brilliant attorney who was dyslexic. He had an assistant who read to him and proofread what he wrote. In the courtroom, he usually won.

For legitimate treatment of dyslexia and related disorders, check out the work done by the Scottish Rite. The largest provider of services to dyslexics in the U.S., the Scottish Rite does so whether or not a family can afford to pay. A very worthwhile cause.

47 posted on 05/29/2007 4:59:54 AM PDT by peyton randolph (What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
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