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To: Pietro
"I agree w/ that fully. However, can you honestly say that someone who approaches ID w/ an open mind would be accepted at most universities in this country."

I really don't know. How would someone with a belief in Astrology be received by the Astronomy department?

I am really tired of special interest groups yelling rape every time someone looks under their skirt. Sometimes they have a point, other times they are crying wolf. Without a transcript of the decision making process we will never know but I believe it is premature to assume that bias against ID caused the failure to gain tenure (or was the main reason). What criteria were used to accept and deny others? Are those criteria in line with Gonzalez's qualifications or lack thereof? So far the information from other professors looks to be against Gonzalez, but I do not know what the real world conditions for tenure are at ISU. So far all we see from the ID side are the official minimums and from my side the ideals. Where does ISU sit practically?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

307 posted on 05/31/2007 8:14:59 PM PDT by b_sharp (The last door on your right. Jiggle the handle.)
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To: b_sharp
Without a transcript of the decision making process we will never know but I believe it is premature to assume that bias against ID caused the failure to gain tenure (or was the main reason).

Gonzalez had no major grants during his seven years at ISU, had published no significant research during that time and had only one graduate student finish a dissertation.

318 posted on 06/01/2007 10:40:40 AM PDT by ColdWater
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