Posted on 05/28/2007 5:44:20 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
“What’s wrong with Dr. Gonzalez? So far as anyone can tell, this rejection had little to do with his scientific research, and everything to do with the fact that Dr. Gonzalez believes the scientific evidence points to the idea of an intelligent designer.”
And it scares the heck out of the those that hope like heck there ain’t no God.
For those who want to look at Prof. Guillermo Gonzalez’s Scientific qualifications, see here for his citation record among peer reviewed journals and other magazines :
http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200705/0761.html
That's the crux of the professor's problem: There isn't any scientific evidence supportive of ID.
Never challenge a well-established orthodoxy that is not sure of its ground. If Galileo were alive he would be on the side of Dr. Gonzalez, because he shared his views.
There could be more than one intelligent designer.
To state for the 98th time, Prof Gonzalez was not teaching ID in the classroom.
Not to be rude, but you may want to read on the facts of the case before commenting.
Gonzalez is being persecuted for his beliefs; mainly by a atheist “religious studies” studies professor named Hector Avalos.
Occam’s razor. No.
>>“What’s wrong with Dr. Gonzalez? So far as anyone can tell, this rejection had little to do with his scientific research, and everything to do with the fact that Dr. Gonzalez believes the scientific evidence points to the idea of an intelligent designer.”<<
I’ve read a lot about this and I don’t think that is true.
His beliefs and credentials don’t seem to be in question. It is his position as a senior fellow in a group that works against science education. No science based department is going to want that association.
Now, we can discuss whether science related activities outside the classroom should be considered for tenure but if such activities can be considered, his are really big red flag.
What about the digital design of DNA? What about ORDER in general?
This is the problem I have with Intelligent Design as science.
I believe in God and that Jesus Christ is the son and the way to the father, however, any assertions that of a Supreme Being created the universe must backed up with scientific fact. It is not, it is religion not science.
I expect the Evolution Worshippers to show up on this thread anytime now.....
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Galileo would be denied tenure also.
Well, in effect, he was.
Well, let’s say for the sake of the argument that he is wrong.
A lot of scientists propose theories that turn out to be wrong. As long as they don’t fake or fudge their evidence, what’s so bad about that? If he can be proved wrong, then presumably it weakens the case for ID and indirectly helps to advance the science of astromy by eliminating one possible theory.
What is simply intolerable in this and similar cases is that he is being kicked out of his job like a criminal for proposing a politically incorrect thesis. That isn’t the way science is supposed to work. Various people propose various theories, and the better theories work their way to the top and the others are discarded. Or, alternatively, the book is simply ignored.
There is a kind of hysterical bigotry and intolerance on the part of the anti-ID people that is truly frightening, because it suggests that our scientific establishment has really gone onto ideological steroids and is unwilling to adhere to the normal rules of scientific discourse. Instead they turn to bullying, persecution, and activist judges to enforce their beliefs, and will tolerate no questions whatever of their views.
is no tenure because of of beliefs a litmus tests ?
Could this go to the SCOTUS ?
< sarcasm > That cannot be true - people who claim to follow science are always totally objective and never let their personal fears or bias enter into the argument. < / sarcasm >
Long story short, Gonzales is just another target and victim of the Godless left. We will see much more of this as the left continues its war on the core substance and beliefs of America.
Evolution worshipers? That’s projection. Believers in ID are the worshipers trying to insert religion into science.
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