The next president for life of Azatlan. "America, we gotcha"
Posted on 05/28/2007 5:25:38 PM PDT by Baladas
WASHINGTON, May 25 — Angry calls poured into Senator Jon Kyl’s office this week by the thousands, expressing outrage beyond anything he said he had witnessed in his 20-year political career. The callers were inflamed by Mr. Kyl’s role in shaping the bipartisan immigration compromise announced May 17, which lawmakers continue to debate.
“Yes, I have learned some new words from some of my constituents,” Mr. Kyl, an Arizona Republican, said at a news conference on Thursday, drawing titters from those in the room.
Mr. Kyl, 65, who garners top ratings from conservative groups every year, is the unlikely lynchpin to the fragile alliance of Democrats and Republicans trying to push the sprawling immigration bill through the Senate.
An ardent foe of the immigration bill that passed the Senate last year but was later stymied by House Republicans, Mr. Kyl is seen as essential to attracting conservative Republicans to the new proposal. As his party’s conference chairman, Mr. Kyl is the third-ranking Republican in the Senate and a fervent spokesman for conservative principles.
Although the bill’s backers have praised Mr. Kyl for his political courage, his about-face was not ushered in by either a high-minded refusal to demagogue on the issue or a conscious summoning of historic compromises from the Senate’s past.
A technocrat who has labored in Arizona in the shadow of his much more visible colleague, Senator John McCain, Mr. Kyl has traditionally shunned the spotlight and worked behind the scenes immersed in the details of legislation. It was that affinity for working in the trenches on policy, and pragmatism about the art of legislating, that led him to become a legislative partner of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who has been a major voice for immigration overhaul.
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Actually I do know why Business is behind this bill. They want to take the wind out of the sails of the enforcement movement. The growing movement that wants the government to simply enforce the laws on the books. The movement with the best, most cost effect answer to the illegal immigration problem which is to force businesses to not hire them. If they are punitively prevented from hiring illegals then most illegals will go home of their own free will. No CCN footage of illegals being rounded up and loaded on buses. This bill is cover for business. They know that they wont hire the newly legal immigrants. They know that they will continue to hire the flood of illegal immagrants all to happy to fill the void. They know this bill will deflect the enforcement movement.
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.
“The media can keep repeating this all they like, if the GOP did not want a Kennedy bill to pass they could filibuster it. Kyl is going along with it because he supports amnesty and guest worker programs and not because he didn’t have a choice.”
Correct. He was pandering for votes last year. this is his true face.
NYTimes is in lockstep with Bush on memes and spin. Kyl’s “needs” need not be satisfied, the bill would pass in the Senate with or without him.
What is necessary is to not educate the public about the bill’s particulars. One way is to demonize, the other way is to proclaim “bipartisanship” . the latter will fail and Bush we revert to demonization.
Kyl is a deceitful liar, Bush’s type of guy.
The democrats must have something on him.
It isn't just the NY Times either, the Washington Post was actually giving Bush advice about doing more to push the bill and magically the next day he started doing so with his press conference. These papers know the millions of democrats this will add and so does Bush.
No Patriot Votes Republican Again. You have been HOSED too often by the Bush Brothers and dad.
Conservative Third Party?
By Basil Harrington
“The GOP is on a downward course to becoming the party of corporate globalism, not conservatism,” said one analyst recently. “Unless Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter receives the 2008 nomination, conservatives will have no choice but to vote third party,” said another.
Conservatives all around the country are talking about the prospect of flocking to a conservative third party*, which more than likely would be the Constitution Party or the America First Party. If they were smart, they would look at the British National Party, Front National, and Vlaams Belang in Europe as models, all of which have made great strides. And unlike the phony neocon GOP in the U.S., these parties are conservative in the true sense: they want to conserve Western man and his ancestral traditions.
How has the GOP gone wrong?
First, there is no greater betrayal than over immigration. So tied to providing cheap labor for big business, all but two Republican Senators recently voted against Senator Dorgan’s amendment to scrap a guest-worker program that will overwhelmingly drive down American wages. They have sided with the corporate globalists against hard-working Americans.
There is a third-world invasion of the U.S. taking place, and many in the GOP (e.g. Bush, McCain, Giuliani, Brownback, Huckabee, Rice, et al.) have actually sided with the invaders against their fellow Americans. As Jean Raspail said in Camp of the Saints, the “best conservative book ever written,” we can make a stand now against the invaders, or we can watch the West crumble and become a third-world wasteland.
Second, the neocon war in Iraq must come to an end. The transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. It’s a product of Wilsonian utopianism, not conservatism. If we really want to end terrorism in the West, we need to (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.
Many do not realize it, but terrorism is primarily an immigration issue, as they are beginning to discover in the U.K. Three of the terrorists recently nabbed in New Jersey (plotting to attack Ft. Dix) were illegal immigrants who entered the U.S . from Mexico and were aided by Mexicans. Over 200,000 Hispanics in the U.S. have recently converted to Islam. And almost all previous terrorists, including those on Sept. 11, were either legal or illegal third-world immigrants. If Seung-Hui Cho had not been allowed to immigrate to the U.S., the Virginia Tech massacre would not have happened.
Third, free trade is destroying our economy and eroding away our sovereignty, and it must end. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, and they should, but many in the GOP have been “neoconned” on this issue and now support it in some perverse suicide pact.
The Democratic Party, which during the 19th century was the conservative party while the GOP was the radical left-wing party, is already lost to the globalists. And now it seems that the Republican Party is going the same route. Unless radical change is brought about in the GOP, conservatives will have no choice but foster third-party change.
The stakes are right. The U.S. is on its way to becoming a third-world wasteland. We must act now!
That and the ton's of money he is raking in from the meat-packers and the chamber of commerce.
IOW, Kyl is a political prostitute, who is willing to sell out his country for his own personal ego-stroking.
I wonder how his ego will feel, when history brands him a Quisling traitor?
How many times has Kyl raised his right hand, with his left hand on a Bible, and sworn to uphold the Constitution?
U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
You mean like ex-Congressman Hayworth, who actually ran on that platform?
And had the RNC knife him in the back for it, cut off national funding, etc. The RNC did everything to sabotage him for his border defending policy that they could. It was a disgrace.
I don't know. I remember a couple of years ago Pat Buchanan raised it as an issue and if you dared mention his name on this forum you were flamed.
How can you blame the politicians, especially Republican ones, the way this forum acted towards the leading proponent of controls on immigration.
I’m a realist, I look at results. What I see is that the immigration issue does not tilt the scales in competitive races. If it can’t win in the most Republican suburbs of Phoenix, in the state most impacted by illegal immigration, kindly explain just where it can make a difference?
General Arnold of the Continental Army said something similar.
U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
The worm is turning. Even I’m tolerated here again.
I think Hayworth’s dealings with Abramoff sunk his election, not immigration. Even so, it was a fairly close election.
Having the RNC Quislings cut him off at the knees while stabbing him in the back sure didn’t help.
(Yes, after seeing their cooperation on the amensty bill, I think it’s fair to call them RNC Quislings. They all took an oath to defend the nation against invasion, not to surrender to it.)
The contention to which I responded was: At what point do the politicians realize that the people overwhelmingly oppose immigration?
I have yet to see any evidence of that. What I see is an issue that polls well and shows poorly. It's not an issue that causes a majority to pull the lever. Your evidence is?
That is precisely the problem. Just like Beauprez in Colorado, every politician who lost but ran on immigration can cite other factors as causing his loss. The problem is, immigration isn't causing people to pull the lever, it isn't changing the result in tough races.
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