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FL lawyer says Giuliani, Romney, McCain wrong on Schiavo case
OneNewsNow ^ | 5/28/07 | Jim Brown

Posted on 05/28/2007 9:33:12 AM PDT by wagglebee

The Christian attorney who fought to keep Terry Schiavo alive says the three leading GOP presidential candidates don't understand the important disability issues involved in the widely publicized 2005 case.

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During a recent Republican presidential debate in California, the candidates were asked whether Congress was right to intervene in the Terry Schiavo case by attempting to prevent the state of Florida from removing the disabled woman's feeding tube. The answers varied.

Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, said he thought it "was a mistake" for Congress to get involved and the matter should have been left at the state level. Senator John McCain said Congress "probably acted too hastily." And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani called the case a "family dispute."

David Gibbs III of the Christian Law Association says the United States gives greater due process to convicted murderers than to innocent disabled people. The former attorney for Schiavo's parents argues that Congress did the right thing when it intervened to provide her those rights.

"Many of the candidates are following the political wind, if you will, instead of showing leadership and saying, 'You know what? That was good public policy back then. We need to stand up for the disabled. We need to stand up for the senior citizens,'" Gibbs says. "We need to have that compassion for vulnerable people as opposed to taking the mindset that those people that just don't matter," he notes.

It is disingenuous, the Christian attorney contends, for candidates to claim they are pro-life but not be willing to grant due process rights to the disabled. "If you're pro-life, you have to be pro-life at every step," he says.

"Please understand: our founding fathers understood that you don't have any liberty, our Constitution doesn't matter, if you don't protect the innocent life of the citizens," Gibbs explains. "That's why they talked about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness -- your free speech, your freedom of religion, your right to own a gun or [receive] due process of law," he says. "If the government can kill you, you have no true liberty."

When Rudy Giuliani visited Florida he initially said he was in favor of assisting Terry Schiavo but later backpedaled from those comments, Gibbs points out. And in the recent GOP presidential debate, he says, only Kansas Senator Sam Brownback and Congressman Duncan Hunter of California got the issue right when they were asked about the Schiavo case.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; davidgibbs; duncanhunter; gibbs; giulianitruthfile; johnmccain; mittromney; moralabsolutes; prolife; terridailies; terrischiavo
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To: LaineyDee

There is absolutely no way that someone who claims to be a Christian can reconcile supporting Terri’s murder with the last portion of Matthew chapter 25.


121 posted on 05/28/2007 4:15:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: bjs1779
The brain dead know who they are.

But are they euphoric?

122 posted on 05/28/2007 4:21:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Nothing more than these comments of this triad of leftist clowns marks them more unfit for higher office under the Republican Presidential Banner than these inane remarks.


123 posted on 05/28/2007 4:28:16 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: wagglebee
These WAckos you write about. As I understand it many sound people were suspended from FreeRepublic because of a differing view on this issue, are these the people you are calling names?

If so what happened to “a political party can’t be all things to all people”? Not everyone is going to agree all of the time. But a house divided against itself surely cannot stand.

This splintering of the Republican Party is not good. Not good at all. I don’t know how they did it but it certainly looks like the Democrats did a fine job in breaking up the party and have taken away the very power of FreeRepublic that brought down the likes of Dan Rather.

124 posted on 05/28/2007 4:37:27 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: MizRiz9

The statement, “a political party can’t be all things to all people” was made by Ronald Reagan in the speech below. Read it and see what Reagan thought about the “splintering” of the GOP.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735897/posts


125 posted on 05/28/2007 4:41:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MizRiz9; wagglebee
Here is what he said: A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

You may be referring as well to the WAckoes I write about too and call names.

At church we do not give equal time to the devil.

The ones we talk about were not just a small group with a differing opinion, but were on an agenda of meanness to certain ones who disagreed with their mostly liberal views. It didn't always show up to the casual observer but it sure did to those who were targeted. Good riddance to those who meant conservatives harm. I buy into Ronald Reagan's views then and now.

126 posted on 05/28/2007 5:15:14 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: frogjerk

I got tired of the euphoria.

;-)


127 posted on 05/28/2007 5:18:31 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee
The statement, “a political party can’t be all things to all people” was made by Ronald Reagan in the speech below

Ah, yes...1975...when Reagan also said:

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
In other words, we have to keep government out of peoples' lives, and respect their personal wishes and preferences.

And as he said in the speech:

A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.
But guess what... I don't mind if you believe the same as the Clinton administration (against physician-assisted suicide, etc.), as long as you don't try to impose your views on me.
128 posted on 05/28/2007 5:27:27 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: wagglebee
Wagglebee,

I loved Ronald Reagan. In fact, he is the reason I am a conservative today.

However, he too compromised on very touchy issues (e.g., early in his California governorship he had signed a permissive abortion bill that resulted in more than a million abortions). Yes, he was firm in his beliefs but he did little to push them through Congress (prayer in school and abortion). However, he did NOT make deals with terrorists and there is the foundation that cannot be splintered.

I agree that we need a steadfast foundation. But what should that foundation be? I am pro-life, I too thought that the Schiavo case was murder. But, and there is a big but here, there are many good people who think that putting Terri on life-support in the first place was “playing God” and that because of technology we kept alive someone that God wanted to take.

I am sorry but I do not think this issue should be the foundation of the party. We are at war. The very reason for government is to protect this wonderful country. Let’s concentrate on the real foundation and put the distractions aside.

129 posted on 05/28/2007 5:40:57 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: Gondring

Well put Gondring


130 posted on 05/28/2007 5:43:51 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: Gondring
But guess what... I don't mind if you believe the same as the Clinton administration (against physician-assisted suicide, etc.), as long as you don't try to impose your views on me.

I guess you weren't at Waco or a little boy in Miami either,ect.

131 posted on 05/28/2007 5:44:05 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
This is a Christian church, which condones calling people names? Whoa, “call no man fool” 8mmMauser.

So tell me, would your church throw out the evil tax collector, who many thought was a devil, and Jesus called as a disciple?

Oh get thee behind me Satan.

132 posted on 05/28/2007 5:58:20 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: MizRiz9
Oh get thee behind me Satan.

You sound so giddy in supporting death. Isn't that correct?

133 posted on 05/28/2007 6:28:33 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Exactly where ever did you get such a erroneous idea? I clearly stated that I was pro-life and I considered the Schiavo case murder.

No, I will say get thee behind me Satan to all those who bar the path to God rather than showing the way.

Giddy? What on earth?

134 posted on 05/28/2007 6:37:46 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: MizRiz9; Gondring
Exactly where ever did you get such a erroneous idea? I clearly stated that I was pro-life and I considered the Schiavo case murder.

Good. Why don't you tell your pal Gondring that?

135 posted on 05/28/2007 6:45:23 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

My comment to Gonering was not about death. It was about cutting the size of the government.

The statement you commented on was to someone who thinks barring people from Church and God is a good thing. Two different people, two different issues.


136 posted on 05/28/2007 6:55:36 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: wagglebee
And the end result was that an innocent woman was MURDERED and any of these candidates would allow it to happen again.

Only if the idiots who run the state fail to govern justly.

137 posted on 05/28/2007 7:01:36 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: Semper
And the end result was that an innocent woman was MURDERED and any of these candidates would allow it to happen again.

This isn't just an opinion, it is a complete misrepresentation of the facts. Theresa Marie Schiavo was not sustained by "life support." She was physically incapable of feeding herself.

I invite you to learn to observe, think, and draw your own conclusions, instead of adopting the media line of choice. It's hard work, but you'll be a much better citizen. America is home to enough parrots already.

138 posted on 05/28/2007 7:06:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

comments for semper. italicized quote posted in error.


139 posted on 05/28/2007 7:07:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: MizRiz9
My comment to Gonering was not about death. It was about cutting the size of the government.

You said that it was murder that what they did to Terri. Correct? Why can't you tell Gonering that?

140 posted on 05/28/2007 7:07:50 PM PDT by bjs1779
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