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Mironov Tells Kyoto Experts The World Is Getting Cooler
Moscow Times.com ^ | May 28 2007 | Simon Shuster

Posted on 05/28/2007 12:02:47 AM PDT by carlo3b

 

Mironov Tells Kyoto Experts The World Is Getting Cooler
By Simon Shuster
Staff Writer

Sergei Mironov

ST. PETERSBURG -- It was a failure from the start. Russia's biggest conference on the Kyoto Protocol, which aims to fight global warming, began with a speech from a top official who denied that global warming even exists.

"In reality, the scientific basis for the protocol is fairly weak," Federation Council Speaker Sergei Mironov told a crowded opening session of the two-day conference Thursday, which drew more than 200 environmental experts and carbon market participants from around the world. "In the opinion of many experts, the emission of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere does not have any effect on the climate."

On this point, Mironov stands on the fringes of global scientific opinion. A growing consensus has formed among top scientists and politicians, who have been warning governments to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases being spewed into the atmosphere. The Kyoto Protocol, first signed in 1997, created a system of financial incentives for doing this.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: blaspheminggore; climatechange; ecofascism; globalcooling; globalmarshallplan; globalwarming; globalwarmingbs; globalwarmingmyth; gorebalism; kyoto; pogw; progressives; religionofgore; spiritual; thegigisup
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To: Hazcat
"I intend to print a truckload of counter fit credits, and need a copy to work from. Question...How do you counter fit something that is already a fake? :)

You have to be very careful and use the right paper.

61 posted on 05/28/2007 6:57:26 AM PDT by norton
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To: carlo3b

Go RUSSIA. Nothing like a bit of leading edge science.


62 posted on 05/28/2007 7:00:18 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: carlo3b
Yes, Mironov may indeed be right. The world may be getting cooler. The bigger fact is we can't tell. There's no global thermometer.

Some folks grab a few readings, a few readings there -- and seeking to fill a cup of weather prophecy -- tend to select in such a way that the desired outcome is backed by the selected data.

Another HUGE global fairy tale is a global population. Most likely it is decreasing, and has been for years. I mean big decreases. Still, within the measurement accuracy so that the actuality is concealed and the overpopulation zealots (life-haters) make claims that are believed by many -- and despicably result in sad actions all across the globe.

63 posted on 05/28/2007 7:02:33 AM PDT by bvw
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To: carlo3b

Gore and Leonardo will be deeply saddened.


64 posted on 05/28/2007 7:19:39 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: carlo3b
On this point, Mironov stands on the fringes of global scientific opinion.

I don't think that is an accurate characterization. It seems that those scientists who actually study the issues of CO2 vs. water vapor, and their relative contributions to climate tend to have some doubt about the theory that man is dramatically changing the client.

65 posted on 05/28/2007 7:23:07 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: carlo3b
Al Gore's vision of how we'll get food in the future:


66 posted on 05/28/2007 7:24:04 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

If Gore were smart he would declare that because of his efforts they have now won the war on global warming. It would seem a natural to propel him to the Democratic nomination.


67 posted on 05/28/2007 7:35:08 AM PDT by sball (Declare Victory)
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To: carlo3b

The “staff writer”’s name is Simon Shuster? As in the publishing house Simon and Shuster?

This article tries to argue the true scientific thought is the fringes by the kook left.

In another day and age the so called main stream scientists were trying to stop solar eclipses with human sacrifices and playing the bongos.


68 posted on 05/28/2007 7:37:55 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: carlo3b
"In reality, the scientific basis for the protocol is fairly weak," Federation Council Speaker Sergei Mironov told a crowded opening session of the two-day conference Thursday, which drew more than 200 environmental experts and carbon market participants from around the world. "In the opinion of many experts, the emission of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere does not have any effect on the climate."
Kind of like standing up in front of a meeting of Pepsi stockholders and proclaiming that Coke tastes better.
69 posted on 05/28/2007 7:40:34 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Goldwater and Gingrich

Carbon Credits are just an “internet money” scheme.

The new “flooz” fake money.

carbon credits will be relevant when they are currency converted with euros and dollars.


70 posted on 05/28/2007 7:43:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: samtheman

Imagine how SAFE his opinion must be against all those kooks for him to be able to stand up and say that.

THEY CAN’T challenge the science who all they can shoot back is “the majority state the debate is over.”


71 posted on 05/28/2007 7:55:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: carlo3b
I really think this BS bubble is finally going to burst.. This insanity has gone on far too long.

Oh, they aren't going to give up on the religion that is bringing them to the "promised land" -- worldwide socialism -- that quickly or easily. Oh no, they'll take this and all other heretics out.

72 posted on 05/28/2007 8:07:00 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: LibFreeOrDie
which drew more than 200 environmental experts and carbon market participants from around the world.

LOL! And they don't even say how many were "environmental experts" [sic] (never mind what their supposed qualifications are!) and how many were carbon market scammer-- oops! "participants."

73 posted on 05/28/2007 8:08:29 AM PDT by maryz
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To: carlo3b
....which drew more than 200 environmental experts and carbon market participants from around the world.

Most troubling for some of the delegates was the news that the event's chief organizer was not allowed into the country Wednesday. Jorund Buen, the director of Point Carbon, a leading carbon emissions consultancy....

Sounds like stock in the "carbon market" business might ne taking a hit.
Follow the money. The "global warming" hysteria is all about the money

74 posted on 05/28/2007 8:14:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: carlo3b

bump


75 posted on 05/28/2007 8:15:20 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: razzle

” they also say smart beings might be living on a moon of Jupiter’

Of course, when life is found on a moon of Jupiter (not necessarily smart life — religion itself proves being alive does not guarantee smartness) you’ll be the first to admit your freakish mistake.


76 posted on 05/28/2007 8:38:02 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: carlo3b

“Mironov Tells Kyoto Experts The World Is Getting Cooler”

Somewhere Al Gore just burst into tears.


77 posted on 05/28/2007 8:38:19 AM PDT by Grunthor (I am a GREAT sinner but I have a GREATER Saviour.)
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To: carlo3b
I just spoke with a man in Massachusetts who asked about the south Georgia brushfires we are having. I told him we are having a very dry spring.

"This global warming is killing us!", he replied.

78 posted on 05/28/2007 8:39:45 AM PDT by Sender ("America is at that awkward stage..." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: carlo3b
I robbed a bank last week and was quickly apprehended by police. Luckily I had purchased a Grand Larceny Offset Credit from a company I own. I was released and allowed to keep the money.

(With loads of sarcasm....)
79 posted on 05/28/2007 8:47:20 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: carlo3b
Pardon me for talking facts, and common sense, but Rush had a most convincing story last week about the Wisconsin meteorologist, Reid Bryson, who told the story about retreating glaciers in the Alps. They found silver mines, with mining tools all stacked up and ready for "next" spring.

In this case, though 'next' spring was several hundreds, indeed thousands of years later. For some reason, this anecdote demonstrates better than anything that climate cycles come and go and here's the damn proof---I suppose because this one defies explanation, except for natural cycles.

We're somewhere near the end of the little ice age. Go ahead and change THAT, Al Gore. At what point does Gore say, "God, what a fool I must look like !" ? And you too Nancy Pelosi, John McCain, and even Newt Gingerich. If these leaders can't recognize bunk when it's staring them in the face, I must question they're ability to lead and legislate.

check it at;
http://www.wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html#1

80 posted on 05/28/2007 9:02:00 AM PDT by chiller (Old Media is not yet dead. Turn them off and they will die.)
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