Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 27 May 2007

Various big media television networks ^ | 27 May 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, May 27th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark.; Sens. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez; Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.; former Gov. Jim Gilmore, R-Va.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz; Reps. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., and Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.

[Bahbah]

Talk with me. I’m listening!

Me too, sleuthie.

[Bigun]

No one is playing "word games" here so there is no reason for you to get all huffy. I DIRECTLY addressed everything you said in:

"If corporations are already paying an unfair high rate of tax and if a tax deduction targeted to a corporation can prove to be beneficial to the local municipality, then I would be for it. Of course better yet, more fair, not "progressive" tax rates would be the best way to go."

[kabar]

Your Repub reasons are far too cynical. The reason Repubs want to pass a bill is to document undocumented workers.

Correction: To lealize the status of illegal aliens. This "undocumented workers" crap is part of the Orwellian Newspeak that permeates this debate.

We need low cost labor in labor intensive low paying jobs. They used to be entry labor, but too many of us have passed those jobs by and have become professionals.<

Not too work, we are creating our own domestic supply. In 2000, about 530,000 Hispanic 16-to-19-year-olds were high school dropouts, yielding a dropout rate of 21.1 percent for all Hispanic 16-to-19-year-olds (U.S. Census Bureau, 2003). The Latino youth dropout rate was more than three times greater than the 2000 non-Hispanic "white alone" dropout rate of 6.9 percent. As a measure of the future schooling and social and economic prospects among teen populations, these aggregate status dropout rates clearly underline the disadvantages that Latino youth have, on average, upon entry to adulthood.

Unless the life chances of children raised by single mothers suddenly improve, the explosive growth of the U.S. Hispanic population over the next couple of decades does not bode well for American social stability. The dimensions of the Hispanic baby boom are startling. The Hispanic birthrate is twice as high as that of the rest of the American population. That high fertility rate – even more than unbounded levels of immigration – will fuel the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades.Hispanic women have the highest unmarried birthrate in the country – over three times that of whites and Asians, and nearly 1 ½ times that of black women, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Every 1,000 unmarried Hispanic women bore 92 children in 2003 (the latest year for which data exist), compared with 28 children for unmarried white women, 22 for unmarried Asian women, and 66 for unmarried black women.

[Alas Babylon!]

I have to a gree with FreeReign here Bigun. Taxes on corporations/business are calculated as a cost that gets incorporated into the price needed to produce the product. The price plus profit is what we all pay when we buy said product. So in the end, the consumer does indeed pay every tax levied against any business.

A danger in taxing businesses comes when the tax is so high the business cannot pay it without losing the profit. Without a profit, the business cannot survive.

Making business pay “their fair share” might sound reasonable, but it simply comes out of everyone’s wallet in the end. Worse case the business attempts to cut costs (since they MUST pay the tax) by cutting jobs, buying cheaper, less durable materials (i.e. cutting quality), relocating overseas, or shutting down.

[Laverne]

The Rolling Thunder rally is on cspan now (it started at 2pm est)....if you aren’t watching, turn it on....its great, as always.

[rodguy911]

See the two words just beneath your name that say "report abuse" it seldom happens on this thread but there is always a first.

Now go away, you have the wrong thread. There are no children here. This is the adult thread. Run along now.

[Alas Babylon!]

Don’t feed the troll, Rod. Ignore it.

[greyfoxx39]

He sounds like a fool spouting talking points and pandering to the MoveOn wing.

Nailed it!

[Cedric]

I’m no quitter!

[rodguy911]

Excellent, revealing post here.

[FreeReign]

Good day.

..there is no reason for you to get all huffy.

There is now.

I wished you good day and you now falsely claim that I got "all huffy".

No one is playing "word games" here...

My apoligies. Then you fail to understand that the sematics of the phrase "corporation pay taxes" has nothing to do with my premise. Shall I spend further time on this nice day explaining that to you or is it something you can do on your own?

As I said, good day to you.

[Liberty Valance]

bump

[kabar]

I attended CPAC this year. The Border Patrol folks and the Minutemen report a far less rosy picture than the USG is reporting. They had some very critical things to say about the NG being placed “on the border.” More window dressing than anything else. The BP is overworked and understaffed and they are very restricted in what they can do.

[Cedric]

This from one with whom I recently had a lovely, semi-substantive exchange. {See #347.}

[greyfoxx39]

I think even the msm has finally discovered that Mclame really is 70 and is acting the part.(crotchetyMEAN old fart)

There, fixed.

[kabar]

That’s not my take. I still think that the bill can be passed depending on how much pressure the Dem leadership can place on the rank and file in the House. They really have one objective in mind, legalize the status of the 12 to 20 million illegals. If they get that done, the game is over.

[Bigun]

Taxes on corporations/business are calculated as a cost that gets incorporated into the price needed to produce the product. The price plus profit is what we all pay when we buy said product. So in the end, the consumer does indeed pay every tax levied against any business.

A danger in taxing businesses comes when the tax is so high the business cannot pay it without losing the profit. Without a profit, the business cannot survive.

Making business pay “their fair share” might sound reasonable, but it simply comes out of everyone’s wallet in the end. Worse case the business attempts to cut costs (since they MUST pay the tax) by cutting jobs, buying cheaper, less durable materials (i.e. cutting quality), relocating overseas, or shutting down.

PLEASE be kind enough to show me where I have EVER said anything that disagrees with a word of that.

What I HAVE said is that the corporate income tax is a subrafuge and should be done away with and that I opposed "targeted" tax breaks without going into all the reasons why.

I do not disagree with a word you said nor have I ever done so.

[rodguy911]

I stand joyfully corrected.

[greyfoxx39]

managed to get himself elected governor

Managed thru voter fraud and being half-hispanic in a hispanic state.:(

[kabar]

The WH wanted a comprehensive immigration bill, not an enforcement first bill. I believe Sensenbrenner’s version of what happened.