Noise keeps spooks out of the loop (Developer claims it's better than quantum cryptography)

NewScientist ^ | 5/23/07 | D. Jason Palmer

[LonePalm]

Rut Roh!

Z Group won't like this.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[starbase]

I'm working in Taiwan right now, and I'm going to get my resident visa tomorrow. I've worked in Taiwan before, but one thing they've added to the visa is now I must go down personally and give a thumb print.

Whoop dee doo, so low tech, but it guarantees I'm me. I couldn't help thinking how easy it is to secure ID's, and enforce immigration rules, and security rules, with low-to-no tech methods.

From this guy's name and his collaboration with a university in Hungary, I'm assuming he's originally Hungarian. That would make sense, a practical outsider seeing the powerful potential of simple processes, while we claim nothing can be secured without spending $10 billion dollars!

[BipolarBob]

Amateurs. I just Planck my quantum foam through the pre-determined aperture and after delivery - it dissappears on its own. Nothing could be simpler. Hackproof.

[KoRn]

Interesting.

[chaosagent]

Bookmarked

[American_Centurion]

Interesting.

The article doesn’t mention if this will work over a routed network. If it does, once authentication is performed, it seems to me to be extremely secure.

I don’t see how it would work over a router though if the packets are secured by noise.

[NonLinear]

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**** Secure Bookmark ****

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[null and void]

Hackresistant...

[pepsi_junkie]

This seems to have a fundamental problem to me. It seems to depend on two users sharing a common direct hardwired connection. That way they both see the same thermal noise on the line. But suppose each connects to the other through a series of intermediate stops, such as you see on the internet. Then you simply dont see the same line noise and this system would seem to fall apart. What am I missing?

[null and void]

Oh? Not as secure as you think!

Tag! you're it...

[Krankor]

I thought this was an article about housing discrimination in Chicago.

[gcraig]

It's a good idea to start writing software to deploy to servers / workstations that can leverage this super encryption technology. This is outstanding research -- an impressive combination of computer science and electronic engineering. Very impressive.

The pure randomness of electronic noise patterns would be orders of magnitude more difficult to crack than 128bit encryption is today. Check it out -- why don't we just encrypt all TCP/IP packets on all overseas routed fiber multiplexes - it would prevent terrorists in countries outside the encrypted networks from easily abusing the open internet to plan and execute attack missions.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[SteveMcKing]

Instead of transmitting anything, it sounds like he’s exploiting a physical property of the line to communicate a passkey. (?)

Still, a signal is a signal. I could wave across the street to my neighbor while on the telephone, or tell him to dial the initial call that way. Nobody tapping our telephone line would hear us waving.

[ASA Vet]

MI Ping

ATTN: SIGINT SECTION

[ASA Vet]

Keeping us spooks out? is more difficult than that.

[DanielLongo]

Very good post. I enjoyed that. thanks.

[toddlintown]

LOL

[NonLinear]

Sure.
Nice catch!

But of course, since you know the secret handshake,you're clearly authorized to see the secure bookmark!

How long do you think it will be untill folks start wonder about the almost meaningless 'posts' that surround the secret ones?