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To: FloridaVet
Giuliani will be making a mistake not to debate Paul on TV
How many years has that nutjob Ron Paul been in congress now?

And what does he have to show for it?

A fully-paid pension and NO accomplishments ...

60 posted on 05/27/2007 1:14:19 PM PDT by _Jim (Highly recommended book on the Kennedy assassination - Posner: "Case Closed")
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To: _Jim

Any of us spending any time or money on Ron Paul is a waste of time. The Ron Paul supporters get their orders from their daily brainwashing seminars. Life is too short to waste time being indoctrinated about every Anti-American conspiracy theory. I’d rather read honest fiction than the Ron Paul fiction disguised as fact.


84 posted on 05/29/2007 8:02:22 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: _Jim
How many years has that nutjob Ron Paul been in congress now? And what does he have to show for it?

A record of fiscal conservatism, deference to the Constitution, and advocacy of individual liberty.

A fully-paid pension and NO accomplishments ...

Check your premises:

Thursday, January 30, 1997

WASHINGTON, DC - US Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) today reaffirmed his opposition to what he calls the "immoral" congressional pension system by refusing to participate in it. While serving in Congress from 1976 to 1984, Paul chose not to participate in the system, despite a taxpayer-funded pay-out which is more lucrative than any private system. He said high-dollar perks like the pension are areas that could be safely cut immediately, without hurting a single American taxpayer.

"The situation is even worse today than it was before," Paul said. "When I served in the late '70s and early '80s, the congressman had to actually write a letter to enter the program, I simply chose not to sign-up. Today, however, everyone is automatically placed in the system and house members are required to write a letter requesting that they not be included in the program."

After five years of service, a Member of Congress becomes vested in the system, with pay-off beginning at age 62, or pay-off begins at any age after 25 years of service. The five years can be either all in Congress, or added with other federal service, such as time in the military. If someone had 26 years of service, and depending on which of two systems they were under, a Member of Congress leaving office in 1994 could expect a yearly pension of between $52,800 and $86,000.

"This is one reason why so many politicians stay in Washington so long: they get a better retirement plan from the government than they could ever get from an honest job back home. We need to cut perks like this pension system completely; it is immoral that someone spend so much time in Congress that they even should think about getting retirement benefits. And then to expect those benefits to be paid by taxpayers at rates no citizen can ever hope to actually earn is even more unreasonable," said Paul. "There is a lot of talk about term limits, which I completely support, but if we are to seriously reform Congress, and return it to being a 'citizen-legislature,' then we must address these issues. Even the most strict term limits package currently being bandied about restricts members to six years in office, which of course vests them in the retirement system."

95 posted on 05/29/2007 6:15:56 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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