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IRS Caters To Illegal Immigrants - 36 million illegal aliens perhaps?
corruptionchronicles.com ^ | April 13, 2007

Posted on 05/26/2007 2:25:59 PM PDT by dennisw

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To: DCPatriot

How about this?

Do you approve of the Bush/Kennedy immigration bill if it confers legal status on not 12 million but 36 million illegal immigrants. Plus the Bush/Kennedy immigration will allow Z VISA holders to bring in wives and children under Z2 and Z3 visas. Is this OK with you?

OR HOW ABOUT-—>>> Do you approve of the Bush/Kennedy immigration bill with the assumption that 12 million illegals can request legal status. Plus the half hearted enforcement measures I now see. If you were a US Senator would you vote for the present bill?

Thanks


61 posted on 05/29/2007 8:29:46 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: dennisw
No dennisw....I wouldn't vote for it in its present form based upon the large number of respected folks against it.

It reminds me of the Dubai Port Deal.

Furthermore anything that makes Ted Kennedy smile I am against. ;^)

62 posted on 05/29/2007 8:44:54 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: HiJinx
I do hope you don't mind if I ping from your post, then...?

Flattered, actually!

63 posted on 05/29/2007 8:48:42 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: DCPatriot

Thanks much. You are (were) sort of liberal on (illegal immigration) like Hugh Hewitt was. You are probably like him. Hugh says the enforcement measures just ain’t there! We get some window dressing but no real enforcement or deportation for those illegal aliens who refuse to sign onboard or who come here tomorrow and conjure up backdated documents and proof of residence.


64 posted on 05/29/2007 8:50:12 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: DCPatriot
I wouldn't vote for it in its present form based upon the large number of respected folks against it

Like George Will and Hugh Hewitt who are moderates and don't see any real enforcement in store. Just amnesty and another one down the road that this one will encourage

65 posted on 05/29/2007 8:52:38 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: dennisw

Why do politicians refuse to close the Border? Both dims and pubs.

There’s why.

By Stephen Dinan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
March 29, 2007

Uncredited contributions to Social Security grew by nearly $300 billion from 2000 to 2004, a giant increase attributable mostly to illegal aliens using erroneous Social Security numbers, and one seniors group said this will become a major liability if those aliens are legalized......


66 posted on 05/29/2007 8:57:31 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie
Uncredited contributions to Social Security grew by nearly $300 billion from 2000 to 2004, a giant increase attributable mostly to illegal aliens using erroneous Social Security numbers, and one seniors group said this will become a major liability if those aliens are legalized......

Under Bush/Kennedy amnesty illegals will match themselves up with these SS contributions. Let's estimate that 50% of them will be rightfully claimed and that today's illegal aliens will get the money some day. Not Americans

So no free ride really! Plus illegals are mostly poor so just wait until they start gaming SS disability system once they get George Bush's amnesty

67 posted on 05/29/2007 9:03:59 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: dennisw
Well...realize that most 'thinking folks' obtain their positioins from direct experience. We are all a summary of our experiences.

My experiences dealing with the illegal immigrant are virtally all positive...unlike the unfortunate folks in So. California or the border towns/states.

As a small business I can appreciate how 'cause-effect' affects local economies.

Yes, the municipalities that absorb the majority of illegal immigrants become blue-collar...at least that's what happened in Montgomery County, Maryland. But, I am not aware of the disasterous consequences happening here.

Therefore, my position is that if it works in the Peoples Republic of Maryland, it could work everywhere else.

As a self-employed person who doesn't have any safety net like unemployment compensation...medical insurance benefitsm etc., I tip my hat to the man or woman who takes the risks to enter our country to better their life.

Everytime I go to Cancun, Mexico, I wish I could stay. There are a dozen or so Freepers that wished I would too. ;^)

You're right....we should have learned our lesson on the errors of the 1986 amnesty law.

Seems the RATS have us by the shorthairs on this..because the MSM is quick to point out how 'radical' conservatives feel about the illegal...soon to be DEM voters. ;^(

68 posted on 05/29/2007 9:08:00 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: dennisw
WOW! It startled me to see you refer to George Will as a moderate conservative...but I guess he's evolved.

I can say 'evolved' in this forum, can't I? ;^)

69 posted on 05/29/2007 9:09:39 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ridesthemiles
Steve Levy, the county executive of Suffolk (Long Island), a Democrat who understands the insanity of our immigration laws, was on a local TV show this weekend. He said that a government official, who would not allow his name to be used, told him Long Island has close to 200,000 illegals.

A small island, a dot on the map of this country. Do the math

Newsday is all over his case about illegal immigration, so you just know he’s right.

http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp3.cfm?dept=19&ID=154

70 posted on 05/29/2007 9:35:52 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: dennisw
Under Bush/Kennedy amnesty illegals will match themselves up with these SS contributions.

Yes,

I don't know the details, may have read it on your informative thread a few days ago, but illegals will be eligible for benefits under the proposed bill.
Some benefits with less work time than citizens.

71 posted on 05/29/2007 9:54:01 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: dennisw
Our fearless leaders tell us that they want to give amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens. What happens to the rest of them???? Not one of them mentions that.

The Mexicans have figured out how to screw America in every way possible. Not that they're so smart, our own government helps them do it. Says a lot about how much our own government cares about American citizens - NOTHING!

72 posted on 05/29/2007 11:20:50 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Travis McGee

Welcome back. I read a lot about you on a FR thread just recently. Many were wishing you were here.


73 posted on 05/29/2007 11:55:41 AM PDT by JRochelle (Just say no to the slick crazy bully.)
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To: JRochelle

Thanks.


74 posted on 05/29/2007 12:02:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

"Welcome back Pilgrim! Let's ride"

Travis - it's good to see ya back here.
This place is starting to look more familiar now ;>)

Regards,

/jasper

75 posted on 05/29/2007 2:23:33 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: janetgreen
The Mexicans have figured out how to screw America in every way possible. Not that they're so smart, our own government helps them do it. Says a lot about how much our own government cares about American citizens - NOTHING!

Yup!

76 posted on 05/29/2007 5:40:38 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Travis McGee

Hey....welcome back!

There are over 10 million in Texas also. I think the number may be over 50 million. 10 million per year have been coming in for the 5 years they have been using the 12 million figure.


77 posted on 05/29/2007 5:45:06 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: gunnyg
“In any case, those 12 mil figures are bs, and they know it.”

Your right, several years ago before all this immigration reform stuff got hot, the MSM was using an 18 to 20 million illegal figure in their reporting.

When the immigration debate became hot and on the forefront, I noticed the media began to dumb down the 18-20 million illegal figure to 10-12 million.

The MSM has been complicit in the attempt to legalize millions of illegals by dumbing down the numbers by 8 million or so to make Amnesty a bit more palatable to the average joe-six pack.

Shameful socialist!

78 posted on 05/29/2007 5:50:31 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: HiJinx

Bttt!


79 posted on 05/29/2007 6:01:47 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: Kenny Bunk
And do be a good boy in future.

I'll.......t-t-t-try!

80 posted on 05/29/2007 7:10:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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