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Free Republic Purge: Conservative Web Site Bans Giuliani Supporters
NY Observer ^ | Published: May 24, 2007 | by Rebecca Sinderbrand

Posted on 05/26/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit

A few weeks ago – in between Hillary Clinton’s official entry into the presidential race and the first Republican primary debate of the cycle – the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as one of the premier online forums for right-wing political discussion.

It also experienced one of the biggest internal battles to rock the site since the 2000 election of George W. Bush -- a tumultuous campaign year that nearly tore the site apart, as its founder and chief administrator first cleansed commenting ranks of Bush supporters, then, later, rallied to his support.

At the heart of the latest controversy: the fight over the conservative bona fides of Rudy Giuliani.

Over the past few weeks, chaos has reigned in the “Freeper” community as members sympathetic to the former mayor's candidacy claim to have suffered banishment from the site. They were victimized, they say, by a wave of purges designed to weed out any remaining support for the Giuliani campaign on the popular conservative web forum. Another significant chunk of commenters have migrated away from the controversial site over the action, according to a number of former site members and conservative bloggers who have been tracking the situation.

In a plaintive post on the blog “Sweetness & Light,” exiled commenter Steve Gilbert, who says he does not support the former mayor’s campaign, blasted the site’s new “anti-Giuliani, anti-abortion jihad.” Since George W. Bush was elected president, he wrote, “there haven’t been any large scale [Free Republic] purges to speak of – until now.”

The fight began one month ago, when site founder Jim Robinson posted an anti-Giuliani manifesto titled: “Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement.” Then the virtual ax started to swing. Longtime posters to the freewheeling discussion threads, used to serious no-holds-barred web etiquette, were still stunned by the intensity of the anti-Rudy activity; conservative blogs buzzed with the development.

“Jim Robinson has been going on a tear demonizing Rudy Giuliani, because Rudy (agreeing with the vast majority of Americans), is personally opposed to abortions on a moral level…” complained a user on the GOPUSA Web site. “Anyone who posts any support for Giuliani at the site, if it's at all forceful, will be banned.”

(“Normally, we don't allow complaints about other conservative forums,” chided the moderator, but “…because it is being discussed all over the Internet, I'll make an exception.”)

Just a few months ago, Rudy Giuliani placed second in an early Free Republic straw poll; now, his support on the site has been virtually eliminated. “After the ‘April Purge,’ I don't think there are any Rudybots left around here,” noted Free Republic commenter “upchuck” in one recent post. “And if there are, they're not posting pro-Rudy stuff :).”

The forums weren’t the only venue for the Free Republic’s new antagonism toward Mr. Giuliani, which coincided with a wave of comments expressing similar sentiments from other corners of the conservative movement. A few days after Mr. Giuliani’s equivocal Roe v. Wade comments at the Republican presidential debate on May 3, a new “STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread” was featured on the site, and a newly-created stand-alone category debuted via a link from the homepage: “The Giuliani Truth File.” (So far this campaign season, Mr. Giuliani is the only candidate – Republican or Democratic – to be singled out for that level of scrutiny from the Free Republic.)

Why Rudy? Why now? Some conservative bloggers and former commenters contacted for their view of the continuing controversy say they believe that site founder Jim Robinson holds ideologically middling Republicans like Mr. Giuliani responsible for the GOP’s congressional loss and current woes. (They asked that their names be kept out of this story for fear of antagonizing the famously frisky site regulars.)

Others claim that the former mayor’s top-tier status is spurring frantic site administrators into action. Finally, one popular theory holds that the Free Republic is secretly hoping for another Clinton presidency that would send its Alexa ratings soaring back to levels it hasn’t experienced since its halcyon days of the Clinton impeachment, when a since-soured relationship with blog pioneer Matt Drudge and overwhelming anti-Clinton sentiment in Republican ranks helped make Free Republic one of the hottest Web sites in the nation. It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.

“It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s an observation,” said one blogger, who describes himself as a half-hearted Mitt Romney supporter. “They’ve still got a brand name that means something, but they’re not what they were in terms of real-world impact. A Hillary presidency would get them there.”

Robinson himself could not be reached for comment, but his original post laid out his case against Mr. Giuliani – a graphics-heavy presentation of some of the former mayor’s most damning moderate quotes in mainstream media venues, along with a color-coded report card tracking his less-than-doctrinaire positions on abortion, immigration, gays and guns.

Robinson, it should be noted, famously blasted George W. Bush’s presidential candidacy back in 2000, before a dramatic late-campaign about-face that saw him emerge as one of the GOP ticket’s biggest supporters. But whether or not Free Republic experiences a similar election-year shift this cycle, the site’s current campaign is spreading a dangerous primary-season meme of Rudy Giuliani as big-city liberal – and turning one of the most influential web forums in conservatism into an exclusive gathering place for those who share that view.


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To: JRochelle

Oh he told me that as well!

LOL

I enjoyed his posts.


341 posted on 05/26/2007 8:15:27 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: JRochelle

That sight no longer exists.


342 posted on 05/26/2007 8:16:23 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: drzz
Rudy will probably be the candidate of the conservatives, so the debate is not wether Rudy or not but what Rudy for candidate.

Where's the "Aw geez, not this sh!t again!" guy when you need him?

If Rudy is the candidate, the party will split and the GOP will not only lose the presidency, but the House and Senate for a generation. Personally, I won't vote for Giuliani--I don't vote for liberals regardless of party affiliation.
343 posted on 05/26/2007 8:17:10 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The one I miss is pukin dog
/ Agreed. He had some great insight.

Yes, like the fact that the F-35 program will be shut down by the end of 2004.

344 posted on 05/26/2007 8:18:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: All; Howlin

Oddly enough, I miss Howlin.

The quality of personal insults here is lacking without her spice.


345 posted on 05/26/2007 8:25:29 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Eurotwit

“On a thread where I was standing up for the British effort in the war on terror, I supported Guilianis straight talking manner.

I didn’t get banned.”

Maybe the article is wrong????


346 posted on 05/26/2007 8:26:02 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom ("nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.")
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To: Eurotwit

bump


347 posted on 05/26/2007 8:28:07 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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To: PAR35

LOL, I must have missed that post.


348 posted on 05/26/2007 8:28:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: investigateworld

If being a “purist” means voting against your own self-interest, then being a “purist” is the same as being a moron.


350 posted on 05/26/2007 8:31:59 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: gcruse
My experience is not like yours. I don’t recall Mia T, Howlin, or Travis Mcgee cheerleading for homos. Maybe we read different threads.

Of those three, the only one I ever crossed swords with was Howlin. And my many "discussions" with her convinced me that she was, in fact, a liberal pretending to be a conservative. I've come to recognize the MO over the years--they always support the president--even when he's dead wrong on something--but never the key conservative issues. Especially on social issues, they're always on the wrong side and use the exact same terminology to attack social conservatives as the left does.

And yes, there were many among the departed who were big-time homo-promo types and baby-killer-huggers.
353 posted on 05/26/2007 8:35:05 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Eurotwit
Rudy Guiliani is a LIBERAL. If he was a Democrat, he wouldn't be welcome here - period. He's honest, I'll give him that but his views aren't in the mainstream of the Republican Party. This is after all, a conservative site. If liberalism is the conservatism, FR might as well close up shop now.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

354 posted on 05/26/2007 8:35:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Petronski
Why, you crafty counterrevolutionary you!

I stopped doing it because I had trouble remaining honest without totally blowing my cover. And even the slightest hit that you're not a Stalinist at some of those sites is enough to get you banned.
355 posted on 05/26/2007 8:38:08 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: JRochelle
The one I miss is pukin dog.

Yeah, I liked ol' Pukin too. I reckon he'll be back someday...
356 posted on 05/26/2007 8:38:51 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
Matt posts worse stuff himself these days.

I think it was really a problem with some of his "gay" friends who told him the site was full of Nazis or something.

That was right in that period before "$p0+...." citations got automatically deleted ~ there have been some noteworthy advances in keeping sites clean of garbage since those days.

357 posted on 05/26/2007 8:42:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SouthTexas

LOL

My family was ready to do an intervention I was so obsessed with the whole debacle. :)


358 posted on 05/26/2007 8:42:10 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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To: JRochelle
do you have a link for clown posse?

It's defunct. That is to say, the clowns have gone underground. If I had to guess, I'd say that there one or more FReepers who have infiltrated the clowns in hiding, though.
359 posted on 05/26/2007 8:42:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Eurotwit
I miss Travis Mcgee....

likewise...

360 posted on 05/26/2007 8:42:44 PM PDT by no-s
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