[rmlew]

Check your history again.
Alcibiades was ostracized, ie expelled by vote, from Athens after the Syracuse invasion. Having been stripped of his citizenship, he was recruited by Sparta. Of course, he did not stay there long. Evidently he had an affair with the wife of the King of Sparta, while the later was fighting. Alcibiades then fled to Persia.

He was a man without honor.

However, this has nothing to do with the thread. I can just as easily speak of the wandering nutjobs.

[Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek]

“However, this has nothing to do with the thread. I can just as easily speak of the wandering nutjobs.”

I’m familiar with the history. Your further detail is not inconsistent with the point that Alcibiades was an Athenian traitor, and a factor in the animus against Socrates that his enemies exploited.

The blurry vision, and misguided passions, of political zealots seem pertinent enough to this thread. Paul is certainly no Socrates or “philosopher king” but he has a better perception of the limits of his own political vision than either his avid supporters, or frantic detractors.