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Poll shows Chambliss could be vulnerable
The Hill ^ | May 25, 2007 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 05/25/2007 1:26:11 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: AuntB
“He’s going to talk about immigration and, basically, probably beefing up border security,” U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston, R-1, said Thursday. “I’m glad that he is moving immigration along. I think it’s important legislation and I appreciate his leadership on it.”

I hope this is not representative of Kingston's stance on the Senate's immigration deal.

81 posted on 05/27/2007 11:26:38 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: SittinYonder

It’s hard to tell which way Kingston may flop. He seems to straddle the fence. Here’s what he had to say about one of his less than smart moves.

[snip] Instead of being applauded for enforcing the law, the INS came under attack from Georgia’s congressional delegation. Georgia’s two senators and three of its House members, led by then-Sen. Paul Coverdell (R) and Rep. Jack Kingston (R), complained in a letter to Washington that the INS did not understand the needs of America’s farmers. The raids stopped.

Sen. Paul Coverdell condemned the INS for its “military-style” raid “against honest farmers,” calling it “an indiscriminate and inappropriate use of extreme enforcement tactics.”
He then insisted the INS not raid Georgia agricultural fields and crafted a ‘temporary work’ program for the state of Georgia with the INS that allowed undocumented workers to stay ‘legally’ in the U.S. The same has happened in other states like Oregon, and Washington at the insistence of their elected representatives.

Before that incident, the INS had been arresting and deporting almost 1,500 illegal immigrants a month. By 2003 workplace arrests of illegal immigrants for the entire year totaled 445. In 2004, just three businesses nationwide were fined for employing illegal immigrants. In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies.

The Macon Telegraph described the episode, “ Farmers and immigration officials came to terms on migrant labor issues Friday morning, ending the siege on Georgia’s sweet onion fields. But a storm of criticism from the state’s congressional delegation of the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s action is brewing on the horizon. Eight members of Congress signed an angry letter Friday afternoon to three of the Clinton administration’s top cabinet officers, blasting the INS for its timing”

Said Doris Meissner, INS commissioner from 1993 to 2000: “Those things affect an agency’s morale. You go out of your way to make it work, then it comes to nothing. Very demoralizing.”

Republican Rep. Jack Kingston has since stated “Employers in roofing and poultry and other areas will say, `Immigrants will work longer and harder,’ “ he said. Still, he has moved from being one of the 1998 defenders of the onion growers — “For us, it was just constituent work,” he said — to becoming an outspoken proponent of get-tough immigrant proposals.
Now, he said he believes businesses should be required to verify an employee’s legal status. He also is in favor of harsher penalties for employers who violate immigration laws.

He doesn’t, however, think such sanctions will be part of any new bill.

“The business lobby,” he said, “is too strong.”

Lobbyist and White house guru, Grover Norquist, a force behind the verification weakening, said: “The idea was that our job is to enforce the present rules that don’t work — rather than change the rules.”

Or in Norquist’s case, just do away with any border/immigration enforcement.

By 2000, according to INS figures, the estimated number of illegal immigrants had risen to 7 million, from 3.5 million in 1990.

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82 posted on 05/27/2007 11:33:58 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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>> Zell Miller is a hero who would have known what to do about this immigration bill. Too bad HE didn’t stay in the Senate. <<

Zig Zag Zell is a career flip-flopper who didn't "discover" the pro-life cause until he was 70 years old and convinently not running for re-election anymore. Holding these new-found "values" after he left office gave some extra cash to sell books and make speeches to gullible conservatives about his "principles". His voting record was far less reliably conservative than Chambliss or Isakson. If you like federal "hate crimes" laws and McCain Feingold, then by all means, put Zell back in the Senate.

83 posted on 05/27/2007 11:42:59 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi, we elected ROSKAM)
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>> His convenient switch from pro-abortion in previous runs for state offices to pro-life in his Senate race wasn't convincing except to convince me that he's a political chameleon, and along with other things I remembered about him from his previous runs for office, that caused me to skip over that space on my ballot. <<

Sounds like Zell Miller. Yeah, I'm sure his sudden pro-life conversion after 40 years of being a staunch pro-abort had to do with the birth of his "great-grandchild"... and not anything to do with the fact he wasn't running for re-election as a Dem and needed to make some cash on the lecture circuit as a "conservative Democrat"

84 posted on 05/27/2007 11:54:35 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi, we elected ROSKAM)
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To: SittinYonder

Bingo on all that.

The idea that Vernon Jones could even come as close as that poll, is absurd. He’s got a pile of negatives he’s created in the last couple of years, if anyone bothered to take a look.


85 posted on 05/27/2007 11:56:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: AnAmericanMother

>>Of course, that didn’t exactly work out the way he planned, because everybody was so mad we organized and dumped Billy McKinney (yes, Cynthia’s dad) out of office.

So I take it you’re JOOOOOOOOish?

;-P


86 posted on 05/27/2007 11:59:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

I’m an Honorary Goyische Yiddische!


87 posted on 05/27/2007 12:23:18 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: BillyBoy
Sounds like Zell Miller. Yeah, I'm sure his sudden pro-life conversion after 40 years of being a staunch pro-abort had to do with the birth of his "great-grandchild".

There was a reason why we called Miller "ZigZag Zell" when he was our governor.

88 posted on 05/27/2007 1:21:29 PM PDT by epow ( Policies are many, principles are few, policies change, principles never do)
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