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Getting Closer....
Any process to stop the flow of money into the Islamists is OK with me
1 posted on 05/25/2007 9:24:26 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

Dang...there goes the price of sugar now...


2 posted on 05/25/2007 9:28:22 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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I’m with you on that, btw. I was just being facetious...


3 posted on 05/25/2007 9:29:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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So this means you drive around with some syrup in your tank, converting it to hydrogen as needed, rather than driving around with a big tank of hydrogen ready to explode? Sounds good.

Then you need another tank to convert cellulose into glucose and things will really be good - organic cars powered by termites and bacteria.

Mrs VS


4 posted on 05/25/2007 9:29:48 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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Now’s the time to go long on Dairy Queen stock?


5 posted on 05/25/2007 9:32:07 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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One kg of starch will produce the same energy output as 1.12 kg (0.38 gallons) of gasoline

This is the important line. You don't want to carry around 20 pounds of stuff to get the effect of 1 pound of gasoline. The next hurdle to clear will be how this compares to gas when measured in terms of energy output per dollar. My guess is that gas is still much cheaper; but, as the price of this system comes down, and the price of gas goes up, that threshold will be crossed quickly enough.

8 posted on 05/25/2007 9:33:40 AM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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Well that certainly takes all the fun out of pouring sugar in someone’s gas tank...


9 posted on 05/25/2007 9:33:46 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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We aren’t any closer to partial, much less complete hydrogen usage than we were ten years ago, however, I am in complete agreement, that massive drilling everywhere there is oil within our territory, building of refineries, and nuclear power production should be first and foremost on any list that has even a particle of chance to stop the terrorist money flood to our sworn enemies.


10 posted on 05/25/2007 9:34:37 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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11 posted on 05/25/2007 9:34:39 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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This would be cool if it ever makes it to market.


12 posted on 05/25/2007 9:36:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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The Democrats will destroy the food supply of this country in the name of saving the environment.


14 posted on 05/25/2007 9:41:41 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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I see a lot of carbon and oxygen as a byproduct here, what kind of soupy, gloopy mess is going to be left in the tank after everything is “digested” and needs to be removed?
16 posted on 05/25/2007 9:42:53 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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South Florida is a mecca for sugar.
It is more subsidized then any crop.
To harvest it they light the entire field on fire choking the air for as far as you can’t see.
Then the burned ashes flow into your water both above and below ground.
Then take into account the phosphates they use to fertalize it and I just can’t see it as the panacea.
What I can’t figure out is how they get away with it other then the f-ing e.p.a. isn’t doing their job.


18 posted on 05/25/2007 9:43:30 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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ping


19 posted on 05/25/2007 9:44:24 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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We are arming our enemies via a disgraceful energy policy. Putting those SOBS back in tents and back on camels and making them inconsequential (save for when they do something Really Dumb (TM)) should be the new Manhattan project. No further good will ever come from that part of the world.

The environment bs garbage may be helpful for getting the useful idiots to be useful for the right side for once.

20 posted on 05/25/2007 9:44:26 AM PDT by M203M4 (What I wanna see is a pro-war ("kill the bastards") Ron Paul. Pacifism is suicide.)
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If you put starch in the car and it converts it extracts energy from it, it seems that at some point the car will need to take a dump. I wonder how that is handled.


21 posted on 05/25/2007 9:44:43 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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Getting Closer.... Any process to stop the flow of money into the Islamists is OK with me

I have a great idea!

Let's create massive food insecurity in the sacred name of imaginary "energy independence."

All in favor, follow me over this cliff!!!!!!

24 posted on 05/25/2007 9:55:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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I could see this first coming to market as a camping technology. Portable heater / power generator fueled by a bottle of syrup. The next step would be as an alternative for propane replacement ... though in colder climates, keeping the syrup thin enough to actually use may be a bit of a problem. Perhaps there might be a way to convert the syrup to pellets thus altering the problem.

Co-generation and off grid application could be next. Farmers could convert sugar beets or corn syrup on site to power their farms. All these technologies could be serviced with “syrup trucks”.

The next major step would be the adoption by fleet vehicles and a distribution system to support them. If the post office fleet were to have a large sugar or syrup tank back at their headquarters....???

26 posted on 05/25/2007 9:56:34 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Sweet!


27 posted on 05/25/2007 9:56:43 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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Hey. This could mean a comeback of the sugar beet industry around here. Hmmm.


31 posted on 05/25/2007 10:06:38 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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“Just add enzymes to a mixture of starch and water and “the enzymes use the energy in the starch to break up water into only carbon dioxide and hydrogen,” Zhang said.....A membrane bleeds off the carbon dioxide and the hydrogen is used by the fuel cell to create electricity.”

algore is deeply saddened.....


32 posted on 05/25/2007 10:10:01 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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