Cross on county seal draws criticism (Idaho}

The Idaho Press-Tribune ^ | May 22, 2007 | Mike Butts

[Baladas]

Figures all the fuss about this came from a Democrat.

[DJ MacWoW]

“To bring up religion at all is a violation of the Constitution,” Caldwell resident Randy Hooban said. “It’s the wrong mindset for government.”

This guy needs a history lesson.

Library of Congress : IV. Religion and the Congress of the Confederation, 1774-89

[Rodney King]

And the religious symbol has drawn criticism from a Caldwell man and others who say it excludes people of other religious faiths and non-believers.

What, are non Christians somehow not allowed to use a podium that has the county seal on it or something?

[Argus]

“If we have representations of only one faith, of only one set of beliefs, doesn’t that limit us?” Pastor Doug Yarbrough of Nampa First Congregational United Church of Christ said.

This boob shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a pulpit.

[AndyTheBear]

“To bring up religion at all is a violation of the Constitution,” Caldwell resident Randy Hooban said. “It’s the wrong mindset for government.”

Which Constitution is he talking about? The US or the state?

[Vigilanteman]

Hooban noticed the Canyon County seal earlier this year at a Canyon County Democratic Central Committee meeting.

Most like a member of the State Church of Godless

[AndyTheBear]

The First Amendment’s establishment clause bars government from endorsing religions.

The first amendment starts out as:

Congress shall not...

It says nothing about the actions of county governments in the various states. Many of the states had religious tests to hold public office at the time they agreed to the first amendment, and continued to do so after they agreed to it.

On the contrary, the first amendment makes it perfectly clear that even if the feds wanted to pass a law forbidding a county for having a cross on their seal, they would not be allowed to!

The amendment is being used for the exact opposite of the intended purpose.

[GOP_Raider]

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[AndyTheBear]

“If we have representations of only one faith, of only one set of beliefs, doesn’t that limit us?” Pastor Doug Yarbrough of Nampa First Congregational United Church of Christ said. “That puts some people on the outside, and that seems unhealthy to me.”

There is no belief system that does not have at least some who disagree. For instance, some do not like democracy. Some think they should be able to have sexual relations with small children.

Should then our government be more sensitive to the feelings of child molesters and fascists? Certainly letting people vote and putting child rapists in jail is contrary to the belief systems of this minority. Are we not then intolerant and exclusionary if we choose to support such policy? Are we not using the government to shove our own belief system down their throats?</snark>

[AndyTheBear]

Give me a break! They are complaining about that?!?

[Disambiguator]

You can barely see the thing! Talk about a tempest in a toilet bowl.

[elcid1970]

I’m tired of the ACLU bullcrap.

Somebody find out where these people live....

[KC-10A BOOMER]

People here will not take too kindly to this individual and the few other contrarian BS artists backing them. I was afraid this would happen when the Californian’s started their invasion a few years ago. I’ve seen it in Oregon and when stationed in Colorado Springs. First they inflate the price of a house so the locals can no longer afford one and then they start meddling in how things work in local politics with their multi-cult BS. They already screwed up their state and can’t help themselves from screwing up their new home.

[muawiyah]

Dems and ACLU scum and riffraff think their interpretation of what is or is not religious should be enshrined by the courts as the law of the land.

Time to put a stop to that.

For one thing, many Christian churches do not have crosses on steeples ~ there are really no doctrinal requirements for the outside of buildings where Christians meet anyway.

[Jonah Hex]

I wanna complain about the tractor on the seal! It deliberately excludes and marginalizes John Deere owners! Where's my lawsuit settlement?!? /s

[dighton]

You can barely see the thing!

Like the old joke where a woman living near a beach expresses indignation at the scanty attire visible from her window.

“I can’t make out anything from here,” says her friend.

“Well yes,” she replies, producing binoculars, “you’re not using these.”

[VOA]

I wanna complain about the tractor on the seal! It deliberately excludes
and marginalizes John Deere owners!

I think I detect "the hairy, hidden hand" of a cabal of Massey-Ferguson
owners when looking at the tractor on that seal!
(I'm no tractor expert...but that's the closest I can come matching
that color to one of the traditional tractor manufacturers)

[VOA]

Thanks for posting the seal.
What a bunch of Bravo Sierra by liberal paranoids over a little nuthin’!

[DesScorp]

Fight it till the end. I’m sick and tired of the majority having to lay down in this country.

[beelzepug]

“Pastor Doug Yarbrough of Nampa First Congregational United Church of Christ...”

Oh, yes. We have one of those here in my town. They proudly fly their rainbow flag continuously and write a letter to the editor every few weeks whining because some “bigot” has torn it down. Nuts.