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Microsoft too busy to name Linux patents
The Register ^ | 24 May 2007 | Gavin Clarke

Posted on 05/24/2007 8:08:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 05/24/2007 8:08:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 05/24/2007 8:09:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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More Microsoft FUD.


3 posted on 05/24/2007 8:10:02 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * WAHOO WA! * Allen for Senator from VA * Fred Thompson for President)
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To: ShadowAce

Don’t for a moment think Microsoft wouldn’t come after patent infringers..they have an army of lawyers who do just that. MS knows this is an unwinnable case so they are backtracking to save face.


4 posted on 05/24/2007 8:18:00 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: ShadowAce
I've worked in PR before. Microsoft and Novell are in serious damage control mode. If they're backpedalling this hard, it means the stink raised over not disclosing the patents was really putting a dent in Microsoft's reputation.

But notice near the bottom:

We continue to offer licensing agreements to distributors of specific pieces of software called out in the article. Red Hat is welcome to come to the table, as is any other distributor
There's the motive we cited all along. They want Linux users to run to their safe-haven partner distributors. FUD-for-profit.
5 posted on 05/24/2007 8:18:28 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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What is it with these guys? Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are this era’s captains of industry? No wonder our culture is in the crapper


6 posted on 05/24/2007 8:19:19 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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IB4GE!


7 posted on 05/24/2007 8:21:36 AM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
FUD-for-profit.

Agreed. However, this article raised an interesting question (at least for me): What happens to the patent deal with Novell if MS does decide to go after someone? Given Novell's position in the article ("When we look at this, we've been clear there have not been IP infringements in Linux - period, full stop."), any legal move by MS would put a serious strain on on this deal, I would think.

8 posted on 05/24/2007 8:22:15 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sounds more like Microsoft SCO...


9 posted on 05/24/2007 8:23:47 AM PDT by Philistone (Your existence as a non-believer offends the Prophet(MPBUH).)
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To: ShadowAce

Too busy trying to fix the newest POS alleged operating system that they are using to exploit the stupid.


10 posted on 05/24/2007 8:24:10 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: ShadowAce

Since you like to use these foreign sites as your source constantly here’s a different take from that same one:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/11/microsoft_wins_patent_case/

Microsoft wins FAT patent case - Could use it as stick to beat Linux

The US Patent Office has upheld Microsoft’s claim of patent rights over its File Allocation Table.
The decision reverses two earlier judgements and potentially allows Microsoft to go after open-source developers who use the technology. FAT controls how computers store information to hard drives and other storage devices such as Flash cards.

The US Patent and Trademark Office ruled that the file system is “novel and non-obvious” and, therefore, deserving of a patent.
The decision is important because it could mean Microsoft could force open-source distributors to pay it a royalty or remove the software from their products. Open-source software must, by definition, be patent-free. Concerns over patents within some Linux distributions have been blamed for hindering wider adoption of the operating system.
Florian Mueller, founder of nosoftwarepatents.com, said the decision gave Microsoft the weapons to attack Linux. Mueller said: “This is now a situation in which Microsoft could cause major problems to Linux vendors and users. Microsoft may not want to do that yet for other considerations, but the USPTO’s decision gives Microsoft the strategic option to do so at a time of its choosing. Also, the USPTO and even the European Patent Office continue to grant new patents to Microsoft daily, and some of them may be equally dangerous to open source as the FAT patents.

“The example of the FAT patents shows that all those patent quality initiatives and patent pledges have no significant value to open-source developers, vendors and users if Microsoft ever wants to go for Linux’s throat.”


11 posted on 05/24/2007 8:26:45 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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Bill Gates is supposedly a good card player. He should have know his bluff would be called. Or maybe Steve Balmer doesn’t tell him everything anymore.


12 posted on 05/24/2007 8:27:23 AM PDT by DesScorp
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"Most people who are familiar with patents know it's not standard operating procedure to list the patents,"

It is SOP to list the CLAIMS that are infringed. What is this? Another SCO extortion?

Who has the BS Meter graphic?

13 posted on 05/24/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: ShadowAce
The truth of the matter is that Microsoft has a lot more patent issues to worry about than Linux, which is why they can never release their source code.

Plus, lawyers only go after deep pockets, and Microsoft qualifies on that count. Open source software does not.

14 posted on 05/24/2007 8:28:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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Looks like my prediction the 1st day this story broke was dead on - http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1833619/posts#32

and

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1833619/posts?page=69#69

Blackmail and intimidation, it’s the Microsoft business model ;)


15 posted on 05/24/2007 8:32:26 AM PDT by SengirV
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Bill Gates is just pissed off because he doesn’t have all of the money in the world yet...


16 posted on 05/24/2007 8:34:04 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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What Microsoft doesn’t seem to understand is that they’re now a signatory to the UnitedLinux deal - if only through licensing.

I don’t think they read that.


17 posted on 05/24/2007 8:35:43 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Thing is, though, MS is in trouble.

On the one hand, they prosecute their software patents. They had a record of using them to beat others into submission.

On the other hand, they just won a decision in the Supreme Court that essentially denies software patents.

They can’t have it both ways. What is likely to happen in the future is that any court they bring an argument to is likely to reference the SC decision and tell MS that they cannot have their cake and eat it too - followed by kicking them out.


18 posted on 05/24/2007 8:38:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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"as Novell promised to delete information from the filing that it considers too sensitive for public consumption."

How about Novell doing the same thing? :-)

19 posted on 05/24/2007 8:38:58 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (The World-Famous, popular DJ and FReeper Canteen Certified, Equal-Opportunity, Male-Chauvinist-Pig!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The idea isn't to nail Torvalds for creating Linux. The idea is to make companies like Exxon or Wal-Mart afraid of the liability of using Linux and rush back to Bill Gates' open arms.

I was recently involved in a competitor violating one of my company's patents. We sent them pictures of one of their products opened up with arrows pointing to the offending part and a list of patents they violated.

Too busy to specify the violations, but they weren't to busy to identify and count them? Smells like MS BS to me. No wonder they funded SCO while they were suing: they want to kill Linux and now they've gotten desperate enough get their own fingerprints on it.

20 posted on 05/24/2007 8:40:05 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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