[Tokra]

You are proving our point, but you don’t know enough about the South to understand it.

And likewise - you don't know enough about me to know where I'm coming from. Like the fact that my grandparents were from the South and I lived in the South for many years.

Maybe you don't know enough about the North to understand it - like the fact that the North is NOT just the large metropolitan areas. We have more farms in Michigan than any of the Southern States.

Take a close look at the election results from the so-called "liberal" states and just see how close many of those elections were. More Michigan residents voted for George Bush than residents of Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, or Virginia. Florida & Texas were the only Southern states to cast more votes for Bush than Michigan did.

Just as all Southerners are not gap-toothed, cousin-marrying rednecks - all Northerners are not gun-grabbing, tree-hugging liberals.

[beckysueb]

I know that. We are talking about the big sprawling urban areas. The country folks are fine. Just not enough of them.

[FredHunter08]

“Just as all Southerners are not gap-toothed, cousin-marrying rednecks - all Northerners are not gun-grabbing, tree-hugging liberals.”

No, just the ones who hate the South as a cover for hating everyone who doesn’t live in a large, urban, rabbit warren, regardless of location.

[Islander7]

I thought to point of your map post was to show that areas of South were 'Blue'. Those are areas of heavy concentrations of the depend class, i.e. - Democrats.

"...Just as all Southerners are not gap-toothed, cousin-marrying rednecks - all Northerners are not gun-grabbing, tree-hugging liberals...

I am well aware that there are huge numbers of gap-toothed, cousin-marring, rednecks in the North. As for the urban areas; the depend class is in the majority.

"...More Michigan residents voted for George Bush than residents of Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, or Virginia..."

That is precisely why an understanding of local demographics is necessary.