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1 posted on 05/22/2007 5:10:02 AM PDT by IrishMike
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Hysteria? Assuming the Presbud is balanced and passed every year for the next 25, with the exception of this bill, the US Budget deficit would increase by 36% from $8.8T to $13.8T after 25 years.
2 posted on 05/22/2007 5:13:13 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Friends Don't Let Friends Vote For Oxygen Thieves!)
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The mere fact that John McCain put his name on it, without first polling the American people, indicates his complete incompetence as a presidential candidate. Add to that his complete meltdown toward Senator Cornyn last week, and you effectively have one less presidential candidate in the 2008 race.


3 posted on 05/22/2007 5:14:04 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: IrishMike
JPOD: "You're right, but you're a hysterical idiot."

What a guy.

4 posted on 05/22/2007 5:15:58 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Anti-immigration conservatives are the most vocal people

Notice the labelling as "anti-immigration" instead of the correct term "anti-illegal immigration." Even on FR I've seen very few anti-immigration posts. Framing the critics as bigots/xenophobes is standard MSM practice now.

5 posted on 05/22/2007 5:16:03 AM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi línea de etiqueta al inglés)
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When Teddy Kennedy says it is a good bill, a big red flag ought to go up.


6 posted on 05/22/2007 5:16:19 AM PDT by JoeGar
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My Dad mentioned something... we all know that Politicians on both sides of the aisle are as frightened about touching immigration as they are about Social Security. They've dragged their feet for years. And after last year's protests they realized they had to at least look like they were addressing it. He suggested that they (politicians) deliberately produced a bill that would be so outrageous to both sides that it would be killed, and could not be re-addressed for 2 or 3 years.
8 posted on 05/22/2007 5:22:20 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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The word “comprehensive” when attached to legislation is a terrific warning sign. They tend to be huge giveaways, earmarks, pork, or downright bribes, while hiding those bits in hundreds of pages of “legislativese.”

The whole “immigration” dispute could be settled quite easily...

When your house if flooding from a broken pipe, you don’t start by bringing in plumbers to give you an estimate about fixing the problem. You turn off the water as the first step.

In this case, the first step is to seal the border, to ensure the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens here in the US are the last ones to come in. Once we’ve cut off the flow of more illegal aliens, then we can discuss what to do with them.

Once legislation has been passed, and the border is sealed for a year or two, THEN we can discuss the next step... It’s pretty simple really.... Fool me once (1986), shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me!

Personally, I think that Mexico’s got the right idea with how they treat illegal aliens, although the raping, beatings, and murders are too much. But they don’t like uninvited guests, do they? And if that’s good enough for Mexico to treat uninvited guests into their country, maybe we should be treating uninvited Mexicans in the same way...

Mark


9 posted on 05/22/2007 5:24:32 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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Anti-immigration conservatives

Right there, he's a LIAR.

He knows we're against illegal immigration, but he says it anyway.

Stopped reading right there.
Liar.
10 posted on 05/22/2007 5:25:30 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Don’t these idiots realize that once we make these present illegals legal that the new “citizens” will demand at least the minimum wage, health benefits, Social Security etc., etc. They will stop being a cheap source of labor and will force industries to search for new sources which will mean more illegals. More illegals to do the jobs that American citizens, old and new, won’t do. This cycle is endless, and we the taxpayers of this once great nation are forced to bear the burden of our elected imbeciles munificence.


13 posted on 05/22/2007 5:47:22 AM PDT by asp1
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ATTENTION John Podhoretz:

Your conservative “friends” ARE NOT ANTI-IMMIGRATION.

We are anti ILLEGAL immigration.

Damn. That is infuriating. Paint us with the broad brush of intolerant bigots? Total BS. I don’t know ONE person opposed to continued legal immigrants becoming Americans.


15 posted on 05/22/2007 5:50:09 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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Border-Bill Critics Have A Point

Leave it to an Al Franken admirer to be surprised, lol.

21 posted on 05/22/2007 6:03:19 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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May the "hysteria" swell to a deafening roar in the ears of senators and representatives alike.

May any Republican office holder pay dearly for supporting anything but that which will secure and I do say SECURE the border.

Further, any immigration policy that is passed must have stiffer enforced penalties to businesses who hire illegal immigrants. Dry up what is attracting illegals and they will go home. Screw the argument that we cannot deport them all. WE don't need to deport them all. Just take away the reason for them coming, and they will go away.

23 posted on 05/22/2007 6:05:51 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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Anti-immigration conservatives

Conservatives are anti-ILLEGAL-immigration.

24 posted on 05/22/2007 6:10:11 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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America has been the most generous country in the world when it comes to aid and allowing persons to come here for a better life.

I am sick of these illegals who presume upon our generosity and have the gall to EXPECT what they are not entitled to.

The one thing I am not hearing from these treasonous senators is a demand for political reform in Mexico.

Why is it that WE as Americans somehow have this obligation to give these illegals anything?

With any immigration bill, there should be mandates that the Mexican government reform.

Mexico is a wealthy country despite all the misconceptions.

Mexico’s infrastructure is abhorrent. We as Americans can’t even drink the water down their, we will instantly become ill.

Most Mexican cities smell of sewage because of the sub-standard waste disposal system. There environmental standards are that of a developing 3rd world country. Spewing pollution into the air, ground and waterways.

Mexico has oil, precious metals, gems, agriculture, tourism, manufacturing. The wealthy socialist suck the juice of life out of their own country.

In fact, the indigenous people of Mexico are oppressed by those who have a Spanish linage rather than Indian.

Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. Murder, kidnappings, drugs, extortion, bribery, slavery and the like are a daily way of life in this 3rd world country to our south.

26 posted on 05/22/2007 6:15:27 AM PDT by servantboy777
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I am pro “immigrants that don’t cost 19K net a year”.
I prefer no Islamic immigrants. They are trouble.


27 posted on 05/22/2007 6:17:13 AM PDT by neoken
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I think it is time to disband The Senate.
Useless trolls set up to screw the American People, TIMES’ UP.
If it wasn’t for our Ancestors building America these HalfBrained WETBACKS would be still up to their Necks in disease, poverty and ignorance in their beloved MEXICO.

Get a GRIP, GET ‘EM OUT.


28 posted on 05/22/2007 6:19:45 AM PDT by chatham
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>>a disaster of Biblical proportions.<<

Do you remember these lines from Ghostbusters?

“Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, “biblical”?
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes...
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.”

And...
“It’s true, that man has no d**k.”


30 posted on 05/22/2007 6:32:01 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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There’s a big difference between hysteria and indignation. John is just another elite that has become disconnected with the people of this country. His logic comes from a dependence on input from his own circle, a form of inbred thought.


35 posted on 05/22/2007 7:14:40 AM PDT by blueheron2 (Freepin' in the Bluegrass)
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“Anti-immigration conservatives”

It’s anti ILLEGAL ALIEN John. Get it right.


37 posted on 05/22/2007 7:20:49 AM PDT by Grunthor
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Thought you might enjoy my email exchange with Podhoretz.

“Which of course, didn’t address my point now, did it?
-—— Original Message -——
From: John Podhoretz
To: Dynachrome
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: 5/22 column on amnesty bille

Charm will get you everywhere
.

On May 22, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Dynachrome wrote:

From your column today:

“Anti-immigration conservatives are the most vocal people in the country “

It is anti-ILLEGAL immigration you lying piece of crap!”


40 posted on 05/22/2007 7:49:25 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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