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Tesla Roadster: No Gasoline, Plenty of Juice (Plug-in electric car goes 130mph)
ABC News ^ | May 14, 2007 | VICKI MABREY and ELY BROWN

Posted on 05/21/2007 4:16:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It goes zero to 60 in about four seconds. Its top speed is 130 miles per hour. And it doesn't use an ounce of gasoline.

It's the Tesla Roadster, a new car that's fueled entirely by electricity and could be hitting the lot just in time. Today the Energy Department reported that the average gallon of regular gasoline is now $3.10 -- a new nominal record price for the United States.

Meet The New Electric Car! The Tesla Roadster is named after Nicola Tesla, the largely forgotten genius inventor of alternating current electricity, and it's the brainchild of Martin Eberhard, who said he designed it because he cares about the environment and because he wanted one for himself.

"It's time for us to do something about our dependence on foreign oil," Eberhard said. "It's time for us to do something about global warming. But I wasn't ready to go drive around some goofy little car. … Think of how electric cars look. All the ones you've ever thought of."

There haven't been many electric cars. Early automobiles ran on electricity, as did General Motor's ill-fated and quickly abandoned EV1, which debuted in the 1990s and died soon thereafter. Eberhard said there's "nothing beautiful" about the Prius, perhaps the best-known hybrid car. "It doesn't do anything for me," he said. "Think of it this way. A world of 100 percent hybrids is still 100 percent addicted to oil."

'The Next Great American Car Company' So Eberhard, who made his fortune with a couple of Internet companies, set out to build the car he wanted to drive, one that would change the image of the electric car forever. Eberhard said he wanted "to get people to think of electric cars as being actually hip and desirable and fun."

And that's only the beginning. Eberhard also wants to achieve something even he admits is audacious.

"Our ultimate goal is to be the next great American car company," he said, "to have a whole line of cars for every kind of driver and all of them not burning gasoline."

Eberhard teamed with another Internet millionaire, Elon Musk, the man who invented PayPal. The 35-year-old Musk is busy with another venture called Space X, which, among other projects, is contracted to design, build and operate NASA's replacement shuttle for transporting astronauts to the International Space Station. Musk said it took only five days for him to decide to invest in Tesla after meeting with Eberhard. He's put $37 million into the company so far.

"I am a big believer in Tesla, and I believe it's going to be a great success," Musk said.

Meet The New Electric Car! Behind the Wheel Instead of starting with a mass market vehicle, Tesla's doing just the opposite: starting at the high end and working its way down.

"I really believe the right entry point in the market is a sports car," Musk said. "Because there, people are willing to pay a high unit cost. So you get that into the market, and you continue to innovate and optimize and go progressively higher volume and more affordable with each successive model."

In four months they had orders for all of their "signature" cars. The first 100, with a $100,000 price tag, sold to the likes of George Clooney, the founders of Google, Arnold Schwarzenegger and William of the Black Eyed Peas.

Going forward, they plan to make 1,000 Roadsters a year, with a sticker price of $92,000. That investment gets customers a two-seater that weighs in at a relatively light 2,600 pounds and is powered by lithium ion batteries, like the ones in your computer … exactly 6,381 of them.

"They are the exact same kind of cell that would power a lap top computer or a camcorder," explained David Vespremi, Tesla Motors' director of public relations, while showing us the car. "This is very different from a combustion engine."

So different, in fact, that it isn't an engine at all -- it's a motor.

Fewer Moving Parts "The motor [is] tiny by comparison to an engine in a typical combustion car. It weighs about 77 pounds, and you could literally put it in a backpack and walk out of the room with it if you chose to," Vespremi said, while showing us the car. "What it does is, it has one moving part. It's an AC motor, so it takes current straight from the battery and turns that into … the power that moves the car down the road."

Is there anything that a standard gasoline-powered car offers that the Tesla lacks?

"Well, you have all the belts and the hoses and the gaskets and the plugs and exhaust components. None of that exists with this car. The entire drive line consists of 12 moving parts," Eberhard said, as opposed to thousands in a regular car.

But there are drawbacks: The battery pack is warrantied for 100,000 miles, but after that, replacement could be costly -- in the thousands of dollars. Tesla argues that with battery technology improving every year, each successive year's models will be better. You're not completely off the grid because it does require electricity, and you can go only 200 miles between charges.

Vespremi said the charging station can be installed by "any competent electrician," and it allows you "to get that quick charging time of 3½ hours. Most people hook it up to the drier circuit. And then you just treat it like a gas pump."

The Roadster is still in test mode -- the company hopes to start actual production this fall. The car has gone for its first round of safety tests and, according to the company, has done extremely well.

Vespremi told us that part of the reason the car is so safe is because the chassis is made of extruded bonded aluminum, "the exact same kind of chassis that would be used in something like a Formula One car or an Indy car. This is what allows those drivers to wreck at a couple hundred miles per hour and walk away," he explained.

'I Like Fast' So far, those who've put down deposits can't even test drive the Roadster; they can only be driven in it. Bob Huntley and his wife, Marilyn Miller, flew to San Carlos, Calif., from Houston to see what they're getting.

"I like fast, obviously," Huntley said, "but more important to me is the smile I will have knowing that I am not putting $50 gas in every time I want to go 200 miles. It's perfect. And I get to pass everyone while I do it."

While they work to get the Roadster street ready, the engineers at Tesla are pushing ahead on two more models. The designs are under wraps, but they envision a family-size sedan and a smaller mass-market electric car in the next two to five years. But the real money may come in selling their technology.

"We are in negotiations with some fairly big auto companies, so we hope to make a really big difference in CO2 concentration in three ways," said Musk. "One is in the cars we make ourselves, two is the licensing the electric drive trains and accelerating the technology deployment in other car companies, and three is by serving as a good example to the rest of the auto industry and hoping that they follow our lead."

Capitalism and Altruism Musk says there is an element of altruism behind the company, but that the best way to serve their goal is to make Tesla a profitable company.

"There's a lot to be said for money and glory," said Musk. "I wouldn't say that those were unimportant. There is nothing wrong with wanting to make money or have a glorious outcome. Those are good things. For me personally that's not the most important thing. But I still value those things. I'm not Mother Teresa."

Though design and testing takes place just south of San Francisco, the Tesla Roadsters will be built at the Lotus Elise plant in Hithel, England. And who gets the first car off the assembly line?

"Well, I get car No. 1," said Musk. "I guess there are some advantages to investing $37 million in a company."

Another advantage could be immortality. If Tesla works, it would be the first successful startup auto manufacturer in the United States in more than 50 years.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; carbonfootprint; climatechange; electriccar; electricity; energy; energyconservation; georgeclooney; globalwarming; nicolatesla
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If nuclear energy were supplying most or all of our electricity, I could see their point, but it's not. Coal is where we get the lion's share of our electric and it's more polluting than gasoline and diesel.
1 posted on 05/21/2007 4:17:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a neat footnote, but it’s not the solution for the masses.


2 posted on 05/21/2007 4:22:19 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: atomicpossum

The Tucker is back!


3 posted on 05/21/2007 4:24:36 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Martin Eberhard, CEO and co-founder of Tesla, drives the Tesla Roadster. Eberhard wanted to create an electric car that uses no gasoline, without skimping on style, speed or function. (Ely Brown)

4 posted on 05/21/2007 4:27:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This sounds familiar. Isn’t there another similar claiming company that keeps promising this about every year or so?


5 posted on 05/21/2007 4:28:07 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

electricity is cleaner in theory because some comes from nuclear, some from coal, some hydro, and potentialy solar if the owner has his own array. you can charge the car with cheap nighttime electricity.


6 posted on 05/21/2007 4:28:21 PM PDT by omega4179 (You don't make peace with guys that kill their own sisters for honor,there is no cure.)
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I don’t understand.

My electricity costs the same, day or night.

How much would 200 miles worth of electricity cost for this car?


7 posted on 05/21/2007 4:33:04 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How dare you question electric vehicles!


8 posted on 05/21/2007 4:33:16 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Precisely- if we want to greatly reduce/eliminate some sources of air pollution and CO2 (should Global Warming somehow prove to actually be anthropogenic) we have to find a replacement for fossil fuels. Not a replacement for the fossil fuels we burn in cars, but a replacement for fossil fuels. Period. It is amazing to see people tout electric and especially hydrogen cars whilst being completely unaware that the vast majority of such cars would be getting charged from electricity being generated by power plants burning fossil fuels. I can't recall where, but I remember seeing an article in some liberal (believe it or not) science/nature type magazine on hydrogen cars that said that said the generation and transport of hydrogen for fuel for cars produces more pollution than the extraction, transport, and consumption of gasoline in an average car. Hydrogen proponents love to point out that we can get hydrogen from water, never mind that the Laws of Thermodynamics say we won't get as much energy out of recombining it into water than we put into splitting the H2O in the first place. In fact, the current source of industrially produced hydrogen is petroleum!

Simply put, whether now for environmental reasons or later when we eventually run out of fossil fuels (however long that may take) we will need to find a replacement for the vast amount of energy that we currently get from them. Solar and wind power just aren't reliable enough to replace fossil fuels, and the mere suggestion of building a dam is almost unspeakable in 1st world Western countries today. Simply put, only nuclear power can do for us what fossil fuels do now. It's almost comical to watch the environmentalists fight among themselves over that point- with some having realized the necessity of developing nuclear power whilst other still go into conniptions at the mere suggestion of using more nuclear power because nuclear=evil is dogma for them.
9 posted on 05/21/2007 4:35:19 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: D-fendr

Other stories I’ve read have said the “fuel” costs about a penny per mile of driving, compared to the 10-15 cents per mile for a combustion engine.


10 posted on 05/21/2007 4:37:25 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: D-fendr
How much would 200 miles worth of electricity cost for this car?

A rough guess would be about $16-$20, or about half of a conventional car.

How about heat, A/C and all the other creature comforts? Would tend to cut down on the range wouldn't it?

The whole thing is stripped down to the point where it is unsafe, uncomfortable, inconvenient and impractical - just like a Prius.

But it feeeeeels good. BFD.

11 posted on 05/21/2007 4:42:31 PM PDT by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: Parmenio

I’m not doubting that you heard it, but that sounds wildly inflated given the efficiencies in the two fuels and methods of delivery.


12 posted on 05/21/2007 4:43:30 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Fred Nerks
WOW! An electric car that goes fast and looks good.

And yes, I know it is not practical. And neither are hydrogen cars. Still, it is kind of an exciting time with all the new experimental automobiles coming out. I enjoy hearing about innovative ideas. You never know which one will be the one that will revolutionize the automotive industry. It is encouraging to see so many people working on the problem.

13 posted on 05/21/2007 4:47:33 PM PDT by goldfinch (American citizens, just paying the taxes illegals don't have to pay.)
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To: omega4179

“..potentialy solar if the owner has his own array. you can charge the car with cheap nighttime electricity...”

Cheap nighttime electricity? From the owners own solar array?

Nikola Tesla generated electricity without using fuel, without using solar, without using wind. The technology is known today. It is time to introduce a true fuel independent electric car. Government does not want it. It is truely green. No greenhouse gases ever.


14 posted on 05/21/2007 4:49:24 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Parmenio; keat
I knew I'd seen this before. Here's an article on the same car (not the same article)

Tesla Motors Sets Auto Industry Abuzz

There's some discussion on that thread, and calculation there, of costs and efficiencies..

15 posted on 05/21/2007 4:51:52 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Parmenio

“...the “fuel” costs about a penny per mile of driving...”

A friend of mine who built his own electric car using lead-acid storage batteries would agree on the penny per mile.


16 posted on 05/21/2007 4:53:30 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: D-fendr
My electricity costs the same, day or night.

In many parts of the U.S., electric companies can use the most efficient generators to produce all of their power during the night. During parts of the day, the efficient plants can't produce all the required electricity and thus they have to produce a fair amount of their electricity with less efficient plants.

Most residential customers don't use enough electricity, and don't deviate far enough from normal usage patterns, to justify the extra expense of day/night billing. If someone used a lot of electricty, however, and 90% of it was during the night time, they could probably negotiate for day/night metering and billing. Someone with an electric car may very well decide to do this.

17 posted on 05/21/2007 4:57:39 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A neat demonstration of current technology. Great toy.

Still, it is disconcerting that they are pitching the car to rich enviro-wacko liberals:

Zero Emissions Equals Zero Guilt

18 posted on 05/21/2007 5:00:37 PM PDT by TChad
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To: D-fendr
My electricity costs the same, day or night.

I think that electricity cost less at night in California. At least, that is what I was told when I bought my new dishwasher. The salesperson said it had a delay start time option so the California people could set it to run at night.
19 posted on 05/21/2007 5:03:01 PM PDT by goldfinch (American citizens, just paying the taxes illegals don't have to pay.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Full puctures of this bad boy!


20 posted on 05/21/2007 5:08:16 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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