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CA: Police search for 5 tons of fertilizer stolen from big-rig truck
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 5/21/07 | AP

Posted on 05/21/2007 9:50:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

A tractor-trailer that was stolen while the driver took a break has been recovered, but authorities were still searching Monday for the five tons of fertilizer it was carrying.

Sheriff's deputies recovered the empty big-rig just before midnight Sunday, less than 12 hours after it was taken from a stretch of road used as a popular rest stop for truckers.

The driver had parked in the industrial area near Griffith Park Sunday afternoon. When he returned about five hours later, the truck was gone, said Lt. David Young of the Los Angeles Police Department's Northeast Division. The truck turned up about 20 miles away in Carson.

The theft raised concerns because certain types of fertilizer can be used to make explosives.

Officer Martha Garcia, a police department spokeswoman, said investigators believe the missing fertilizer does not contain anything that could be used to make an explosive, but they were taking precautions

"Because of the contents we are treating it with extra sensitivity," Young said.

Authorities described the fertilizer as commercial merchandise, packaged in sacks, for shipment to a Home Depot in Tracy, Calif. The truck was coming from Texas.

"It's being considered as a plain theft. It's being handled by the commercial crimes division," Garcia said.

Timothy McVeigh combined 5,000 pounds of fertilizer-grade ammonium nitrate with auto-racing fuel to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The blast killed 168 people.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigrig; fertilizer; policesearch; stolen
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To: NormsRevenge

My understanding of fertilizer explosives is that the stuff destined for Home Depot won’t do the job. You need at least 32% Ammonium Nitrate and that’s not sold over the counter at a box store. Maybe someone else knows a little better, but I doubt there’s any potential here for terrorism.


21 posted on 05/21/2007 10:34:08 AM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Thanks. I haven’t driven a rig since the mid 1980’s. I remember the four hour rule for rest....but didn’t know if that had changed.


22 posted on 05/21/2007 10:34:31 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Red Badger

So it does.


23 posted on 05/21/2007 10:39:37 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

14 hours on with 11 hrs driving time within the 14 and stop for 10. You can drive 11 hrs and work three for a total of 14 which is physically close to impossible. There is no mandatory rest when you start your 14 hrs.


24 posted on 05/21/2007 10:42:54 AM PDT by Dean4321
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To: sgtbono2002

You have to rest a certain amount of time out of each 24 hours you drive. I forget what the time is but I would think that is what he was doing. If he doesn’t do it he loses his license.


25 posted on 05/21/2007 10:52:45 AM PDT by calex59
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To: NormsRevenge
Authorities described the fertilizer as commercial merchandise, packaged in sacks, for shipment to a Home Depot in Tracy, Calif. The truck was coming from Texas.

LOL! Then it's probably steer manure, not ammonium nitrate! ;)

26 posted on 05/21/2007 10:56:07 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Dean4321

http://www.tsexpress.com/hours_service.php


27 posted on 05/21/2007 10:57:36 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Red Boots

ammoniawho what? oh, please, asking a journalist nowadays
what is the true story that requires some sort of
“science” knowledge and getting it, is more than a miracle
, there is a better chance of recovering what was stolen
than getting a 100% true report.


28 posted on 05/21/2007 11:00:18 AM PDT by Getready (Truth and wisdom are more elusive, and valuable, than gold and diamonds)
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To: elmer fudd

Maybe they’ve learned how to extract the ammonium nitrate
from the mix, might take a few chemical steps, then viola.


29 posted on 05/21/2007 11:02:12 AM PDT by Getready (Truth and wisdom are more elusive, and valuable, than gold and diamonds)
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To: elmer fudd

Here’s a thought. What percentage of Amonium nitrate does this type of fertilizer have? Any at all? If it does it may be possible to take enough out of 10,000 pounds to make a fair sized bomb. I would think you could leach it out of the fertilizer if it contained any.


30 posted on 05/21/2007 11:08:38 AM PDT by calex59
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To: NormsRevenge
auto-racing fuel

First I've heard of that.
31 posted on 05/21/2007 11:15:50 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: calex59; Getready
I'm not an expert in this field, but I believe that the fertilizers sold in hardware stores don't contain any ammonium nitrate that doesn't occur naturally. The closest thing is ammonium sulfate, which so far as I know has no explosive properties.

Now ammonium nitrate fertilizer is out there and is widely used by commercial farms. It's just not sold at your local Home Depot. If a terrorist were looking to obtain it I think it would be far easier to steal or buy it from a commercial farm or agriculture depot than to try to make it out of something that most likely has no potential to explode.

32 posted on 05/21/2007 11:33:07 AM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: ApplegateRanch

No doubt next we will read about the great seed packet heist.


33 posted on 05/21/2007 11:40:13 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: calex59

Most of these truck have “sleepers”.


34 posted on 05/21/2007 1:46:29 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Some of them have sleepers, but some of them don’t. I wouldn’t even go so far as to say most. Besides it is a moot point. He wasn’t in the truck therefore it most likely didn’t have a sleeper.


35 posted on 05/21/2007 7:30:52 PM PDT by calex59
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