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[2006 flashback] Immigration Bill Is Worse Than You Think (Sessions)
Human Events ^ | 05/26/2006 | Sen. Jeff Sessions

Posted on 05/20/2007 9:50:32 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

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To: 3AngelaD
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

81 posted on 05/20/2007 1:22:15 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: James W. Fannin
"If we don't pass this bill, nobody that is in the shadows today will come out of the shadows and be accounted for," Martinez, a U.S. senator from Florida, told about 60 state party leaders wrapping up a three-day RNC meeting here.

What is this "come out of the shadows" crapola? I don't want rootless foreign criminals "out of the shadows," I want them out of the country.

82 posted on 05/20/2007 1:29:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: James W. Fannin
"If we don't pass this bill, nobody that is in the shadows today will come out of the shadows and be accounted for,"

The ones that don't want to come out of the shadows won't. I've never understood this logic - or that of the "guest worker plan." Yes, many would utilize the plan, but those that don't want to will just continue crossing the border illegally. It makes absolutely no sense at all to even suggest those plans would work until the border is as secure as is possible.

83 posted on 05/20/2007 1:48:49 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: hinckley buzzard
Why would people who broke the law to begin with bother to comply with another law Congress passes? Those that don't want to come out of the shadows still won't.
84 posted on 05/20/2007 1:50:14 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SierraWasp

The Flashback 2006 in the title was a good clue.


85 posted on 05/20/2007 2:04:10 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: SierraWasp

This is what Senator Larry Craig of Idaho co-sponsored last year. Now it’s buried somewhere in the thousand pages of this years amnesty bill. It pissed me off then and it pisses me off more now.


86 posted on 05/20/2007 2:23:10 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: Republican Wildcat; hinckley buzzard

Comments still applicable. Agree with you two on “shadows’ malarkey.


87 posted on 05/20/2007 4:22:32 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: IM2MAD; James W. Fannin; AuntB; Czar
Well (BLEEP!) I thought that danged Larry Craig was on America's side!!! What the (BLEEP!) was/is wrong with some of these so-called "leaders" wearing a GOP label??? What the (BLEEP!)happens to their (BLEEPIN) minds???

(BLEEP-BLEEP) the lyin, fickled (BLEEPERS!) I'm way more than a little disappointed in a whole bunch of these Republican/CONservative steers!!! They oughta all be rounded up, put in a fattenin pen, then hauled off to market to be made into the same kind of sausage they been makin outa our (BLEEPIN) laws in Warshington, D.C.!!! (BLEEP!) on 'em again!!!

88 posted on 05/20/2007 5:29:47 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: SierraWasp

Craig has been pushing this ag bills crappola for years. And he’s nasty about it too. I got sick of watching him cuddle up to Diane Fienstien pushing it.

Did you read about Saxby Chambliss?
Inspections of Vidalia onion fields of Georgia in May 1998 brought a rebuke from then Rep. and now Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), who accused immigration officials of using “bullying tactics” to root out illegal workers. Today, Chambliss is a leader of the get-tough-on-illegal-immigration faction of the Republican party, and argues that the US needs to step up both border and interior enforcement.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=1111_0_4_0

Why & When workplace enforcement of illegal aliens stopped

Politicians count on constituent ignorance and poor memory. Anything over a 30 second soundbite gets by most of us. And just because a politician says today that immigration enforcement is important, doesn’t mean he always felt that way.

Workplace raids by INS were frequent until the late 1990’s. A spring 1998 sweep that targeted the Vidalia onion harvest in Georgia, and Operation Vanguard, a 1999 INS operation on meatpacking plants in Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota, provide case studies of how the immigration laws fared when confronted by a coalition that included low-wage immigrant workers and the industries that hire them.

The Georgia raids netted 4,034 illegal immigrants, prompting other unauthorized workers to stay home.

Instead of being applauded for enforcing the law, the INS came under attack from Georgia’s congressional delegation. Georgia’s two senators and three of its House members, led by then-Sen. Paul Coverdell (R) and Rep. Jack Kingston (R), complained in a letter to Washington that the INS did not understand the needs of America’s farmers. The raids stopped.

Sen. Paul Coverdell condemned the INS for its “military-style” raid “against honest farmers,” calling it “an indiscriminate and inappropriate use of extreme enforcement tactics.”
He then insisted the INS not raid Georgia agricultural fields and crafted a ‘temporary work’ program for the state of Georgia with the INS that allowed undocumented workers to stay ‘legally’ in the U.S. The same has happened in other states like Oregon, and Washington at the insistence of their elected representatives.

Top agency officials issued a memo to field offices nationwide, telling them that they had to give employers 24 hours’ warning before they launched future raids on their workplaces, and demanding that top officials in Washington be notified before any further raids were launched.

Before that incident, the INS had been arresting and deporting almost 1,500 illegal immigrants a month. By 2003 workplace arrests of illegal immigrants for the entire year totaled 445. In 2004, just three businesses nationwide were fined for employing illegal immigrants. In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies.

The Macon Telegraph described the episode, “ Farmers and immigration officials came to terms on migrant labor issues Friday morning, ending the siege on Georgia’s sweet onion fields. But a storm of criticism from the state’s congressional delegation of the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s action is brewing on the horizon. Eight members of Congress signed an angry letter Friday afternoon to three of the Clinton administration’s top cabinet officers, blasting the INS for its timing”

“The opposition to enforcement was so great that it changed the direction the INS took,” said Gordon Hanson, immigrant expert and economics professor at the University of California-San Diego.

Said Doris Meissner, INS commissioner from 1993 to 2000: “Those things affect an agency’s morale. You go out of your way to make it work, then it comes to nothing. Very demoralizing.”

Operation Vanguard met a similar fate. Nebraska’s members of Congress at first called for tougher enforcement, recalled Mark Reed, then INS director of operations. But when the result shut down some plants, “all hell broke loose,” he said.

Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns (R), who was governor at the time, appointed a task force to oppose the operation. Former governor Ben Nelson (D), now a U.S. senator, was hired as a lobbyist by meatpackers and ranchers. Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) pressured the Justice Department to stop.

Republican Rep. Jack Kingston has since stated “Employers in roofing and poultry and other areas will say, `Immigrants will work longer and harder,’ “ he said. Still, he has moved from being one of the 1998 defenders of the onion growers — “For us, it was just constituent work,” he said — to becoming an outspoken proponent of get-tough immigrant proposals.
Now, he said he believes businesses should be required to verify an employee’s legal status. He also is in favor of harsher penalties for employers who violate immigration laws.

He doesn’t, however, think such sanctions will be part of any new bill.

“The business lobby,” he said, “is too strong.”

Lobbyist and White house guru, Grover Norquist, a force behind the verification weakening, said: “The idea was that our job is to enforce the present rules that don’t work — rather than change the rules.”

Or in Norquist’s case, just do away with any border/immigration enforcement.

By 2000, according to INS figures, the estimated number of illegal immigrants had risen to 7 million, from 3.5 million in 1990.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836717/posts

Here’s another poll!

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/
The White House and key lawmakers agreed Thursday to reshape the nation’s immigration laws and give millions of illegal immigrants legal status. At the same time, borders would be tightened. Do you support the new plan?
Yes
No


89 posted on 05/20/2007 5:42:29 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: SierraWasp
"They oughta all be rounded up, put in a fattenin pen, then hauled off to market to be made into the same kind of sausage they been makin outa our (BLEEPIN) laws in Warshington, D.C.!!!"

Each and every Senator voting YES on S. 1348 is in breach of his/her oath of office and is committing treason. Each of these traitors should resign or be removed from office.

90 posted on 05/20/2007 5:50:33 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: AuntB; calcowgirl
Meanwhile... Back at the ranch... All these pseudo CONservative politicians hand us perpetual promises that are like ropes of sand!

Even the text of the current "Deal, Or No Deal" legislative dubious deal is being rapidly shifted and covered up so's us peasants with pitchforks can't focus on it and alert a sleeping giant... Our old America of the 1940's, 1950's and even a fair part of the 1960's. (The 1980's were good, too!)

The damage done to America by our own hijacked goverment instutions of indoctrination of our children is really hard to overcome. Especially in this age where the TV raise 'em the other half of the time with the MSM!!!

91 posted on 05/20/2007 5:52:15 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: Czar
True! But fat chance of makin that happen!! The Republicans got power away from these creeps and just flat flinched like chicken (BLEEPS) from "shutin the government down" so to speak and let Bill Clinton, who couldn't dazzle 'em with his brilliance... Baffel 'em with his steer manure!!!

Now they squandered our money and all their remaining opportunity to do any good and so what do they do? They run around in circles screeching and cackling that they gotta do something with these dubious Democrats... EVEN IF IT'S WRONG!!!

Even the danged Republican President, who's just about ruined his legacy by trying to out-do LBJ in fighting a politically correct war, is trying to salvage ANY kind of a "legacy" out of his squandered "political capital" by joining in with these dubious bastards to damage the people that "brung 'em" rather than dance with 'em!!!

92 posted on 05/20/2007 6:01:16 PM PDT by SierraWasp (CA!!! Are you ready to rumble *??? Or are ya just gonna mumble and grumble??? (*aka "Recall"))
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To: SierraWasp

BLEEP indeed. I remember how angry I was last year. I watched Senator Sessions on CSPAN live on the Senate floor, and then heard some of the responses. Sessions made me angry. The responses to Sessions made me want to put a sledge hammer through my TV’s tube.

These people are TRAITORS, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS.


93 posted on 05/20/2007 6:09:59 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (unappeasable)
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To: Czar

Amen!!! We are watching the federal government commit treason. If this bill is not stop there either has to be a revolution or we have to start learning the Pledge of Allegiance to Mexico.


94 posted on 05/20/2007 7:10:27 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 ($5,000 for a piece of American Sovereignty)
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To: 3AngelaD

Article is a year old.


95 posted on 05/20/2007 7:44:56 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: redhead
No, this isn't the final bill. That's the bad news.

This will breeze through the Senate and will go to the House. At which point, any reference to any language that might be considered objectionable will be removed....things like "wall", amnesty", etc....you get the picture.

This is legislation written by lawyers for lawyers and our President will sign it with a smile on his face.

We The People will then have a date to which we can point as the very day that The Republic died.

You are correct. We are hosed without hope. Almost.

There is another.

96 posted on 05/20/2007 7:56:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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