[greyfoxx39]

We have a Republican who has never fully embraced the Conservative principles completely.

In all fairness, how could President Bush have done any differently in most cases with the spineless Republicans in congress he has had to work with? Not to mention the prima donnas like Specter, Hagel and remember the Gang of 14?

I think after November...the Republicans are scared to death of the Democrat attack and smear machine and will sign on by and large to whatever they need to in order to avoid the attacks and hold onto their office

Nothing new there.

W doesn’t care...he’s not up for re-election next year. He’s trying to build some kind of immediate legacy because the cornerstone of his Presidency...defending this country after 9/11 is having poop slung on it by the Left.

I believe that if President Bush signs the bill AS IT IS PRESENTED AT THIS TIME, it will be a much blacker stain against his legacy than is Iraq. I still have a tough time believing that legacy is the main force driving this. If the theories regarding the effects on the SS system alone are correct, our children and grandchildren will pay the price.

Who is the odd man out? IMHO it will be W and the Republicans backing this lipsticked pig.

I have been a "Bush-bot" since December 2000, but if, in fact Bush signs on to this "lipsticked pig" as I understand it, I will feel betrayed. I still have hopes that the outcry against it will sway some of the Republican Senators. That is, if Reid doesn't overhaul the Senate rules before the vote.

They never expected the opposition to it...just as they misunderestimated the opposition to the last time they tried to sneak this through.

How could they not expect the opposition? There have been posts on FR that suggest there may have been a deal cut on this and the Iraq funding. If so, I wish someone would clue me (and probably countless others) in. I suggest that if Bush thinks he can trust the Swimmer, Reid and Pelosi to keep their part of any bargain, he should have learned better by now.

I have been a "member" of this thread for quite a while now, but today I hesitate to post, wondering which direction the flames are going to be coming from. Is the "infection" spreading over here now?

[Alas Babylon!]

Look at it another way. He sees that the voters have spoken. If the voters didn't want Pelosi as Speaker and Reid as Majority Leader then the Republicans wouldn't have lost.

The election of 2006 had consequences for the whole country. I warned back then that a democrat House would not favor the tougher stand the the Republican House was then taking (not the Senate--a totally different matter) but others argued the Republican House wasn't doing enough, like rounding up all the illegals and sending them home immediately. So just enough democrat supporters voted and just enough republicans supporters didn't vote and now we have a totally different House of Representatives.

The election of 2006 decided which way the country would go on immigration. It went with the dem plan. Our chance to do something was last year. Now it is too late.

[Bahbah]

There have been posts on FR that suggest there may have been a deal cut on this and the Iraq funding

I have seen that suggestion. I very much doubt it. The President has been for something like this for a long time. This is not a change in position for him that would bespeak some kind of deal.

[txradioguy]

I find myself in agreement with most of what you said.

The only disagreement...in no way is Iraq a “black stain” against his presedency.