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To: angkor
Immigration is the one point wherre I do not support W. There is a groundswell against this legislation, which I hope will have an impact.

Do you really think a dim pres, or a continued dim congress will do better?

142 posted on 05/20/2007 7:15:02 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: mathluv

I saw a snip where Lou Dobbs said this has 0% chance of passing.

For what that’s worth.

I find Lou to be a little pompous - but that man has held tough on this issue - there’s no doubt about that.


145 posted on 05/20/2007 7:16:54 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: mathluv
Do you really think a dim pres, or a continued dim congress will do better?

Again, and as usual, the straw man.

It doesn't matter whether they would or wouldn't "do better". Because Republican Senators and a Republican President are doing it, right now.

You guys love to throw out these red herrings and straw men and scary stories, when the reality right in front of your eyes is that it is Republicans who are betraying us, the party, the nation, and the rule of law, right here and now.

No? Don't the Republicans have 41 seats in the Senate? Can't they filibuster, at least until there has been time to understand and explain what hidden traps and costs are in thsi bill (aside from the obvious ones)? Doesn't Jorge Bush have a veto pen?

You seem perfectly willing to accept a Republican Party which is packed with the most egregious liars and whimps, and your only retort is "Well, they're better than Democrats."

Sorry, that's not good enough.

And at this stage and given the enormity of the damage that is about to be done - literally the generational destruction of America - I'm not sure that the Republicans are less or more despicable than the Democrats.

205 posted on 05/20/2007 8:03:26 AM PDT by angkor
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To: mathluv
Do you really think a dim pres, or a continued dim congress will do better?

They KNOW better but for the 100%ers this is another case where the below comes into play in US politics. All they care about is that their particular emotional hot button be pushed. It the "politcs as sport" mentality that has taken over too much of the political discourse in this country, For them to "win", anyone who disagrees even .5% with their dogma must "lose". It one of the more sorry aspects of US politics is how often things are done because of the egos of the players rather then the best interests of the country.

212 posted on 05/20/2007 8:08:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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