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AMNESTY $$$$$ - This Amnesty will kill Social Security
National Review- The Corner ^ | May 16, 2007 | Kate O'Beirne

Posted on 05/20/2007 2:34:13 AM PDT by dennisw

AMNESTY $$$$$   [Kate O'Beirne]

Tomorrow, The Heritage Foundation's Robert Rector will share the following analysis in testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. Virtually no attention has been paid to the enormous costs involved in legalizing millions of low-skilled illegal aliens. One problem is that immigration reform is being negotiated by Judiciary Committee lawyers who typically have little experience in budgetary issues. Some Members who might be expected to blanch at a potential price tag of $2.5 trillion on their handiwork are kidding themselves by naively expecting that government benefits will be denied to the newly-legalized. Some know so little about tax burdens and benefit costs that they wrongly believe low-skilled workers are a net benefit to the social security system.

Giving amnesty to illegal immigrants would increase the costs outlined in this testimony. Some 50 to 60 percent of illegal immigrants lack a high school degree. Granting amnesty or conditional amnesty to illegal immigrants would, overtime, increase their use of means-tested welfare, Social Security and Medicare. Fiscal costs would go up significantly in the short term but would go up dramatically after the amnesty recipient reached retirement. Based on my current research, I estimate that if all the current adult illegal immigrants in the U.S. were granted amnesty the net retirement costs to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.5 trillion.

The calculation of this figure is as follows. In March 2006, there were 9.3 million adult illegal immigrants in the U.S. Most illegal immigrants are low-skill. On average, each elderly low-skill immigrant creates a net cost (benefits minus taxes) for the taxpayer of about $17,000 per year. (This includes federal state and local government costs.) If the government gave amnesty to 9.3 million illegal immigrants, most of them would eventually become eligible for Social Security and Medicare benefits or Supplemental Security Income and Medicaid benefits.

However, not all of the 9.3 million adults given amnesty would survive till age 67. Normal mortality rates would probably reduce the population by roughly 15 percent before age 67. That would mean 7.9 million individuals would reach 67 and enter retirement.

Of those reaching 67, the average life expectancy would be around 18 years. The net governmental cost (benefits minus taxes) of these elderly individuals would be around $17,000 per year. Over eighteen years of expected life, costs would equal $360,000 per elderly amnesty recipient. A cost of $306,000 per amnesty recipient times 7.9 million amnesty recipients would be $2.4 trillion. These costs would hit the U.S. taxpayer at exactly the point that the Social Security system is expected to go into crisis. This is a preliminary estimate based on my ongoing research. More research should be performed, but I believe policy makers should examine these potential costs carefully before rushing to grant amnesty, “Z visas” or “earned citizenship” to the current illegal immigrant population.

Amnesty proponents may argue that some of these individuals will go home without getting benefits, or before they reach retirement age. Though perhaps valid, that argument only emphasizes how expensive amnesty recipients would be; the longer they remain in the country the greater the cost to the taxpayer.

Little wonder that supporters of "comprehensive" immigration reform are racing against the clock. They best hurry up and pass this EXPENSIVE bill before taxpayers already opposed to amnesty realize what it's likely to cost them.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalimmigration; socialsecurity
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To: OrioleFan

“My Social Security statement says I am required to earn 40 credits (max 4 per year with $940 earned income per credit). This meant I had to work 10 years to be eligible for SS benefits.

Does this apply to illegals, and how does this work for those who have paid into the system using fradulent SS numbers (you supposedly can’t work without one)..”

From what I’ve read....an illegal alien must work only 18 MONTHS in order to be eligible for Social Security AND this includes credit for time worked in their country of origin. Not only is this is going to be part of the new legislation, but it is also part of the Trilateral Agreement between the US and Mexico.

Also, since illegals will be FORGIVEN for having used stolen Social Security Numbers, as long as they can show proof they they worked, they’re good to go. On the other hand, I have read horror stories of American Citizens who’s work credits have been COMPLETELY WIPED OUT because the illegal aliens are on the same number. When you try to get SS to ‘fix’ the problem, you stand to lose everything and go back to zero. Here are some horror stories:

http://ensign.senate.gov/counties/record.cfm?id=257162&;


41 posted on 05/20/2007 6:10:02 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: dennisw

We can’t allow this to happen. We’ll be granting carte blanche welfare benefits to 12 million illegals and then to non-illegals when they stick out their hands and ask “where’s my money?”.
And what fund will they tap. Social Security of course. And politicians have the nerve to call SS an entitlement!!!!!!! OK, if that’s the case, I’ll hold back the portion of my federal withholding and put it into my retirement funds, since by the time I turn 65, SS will be gone but not welfare, of course.


42 posted on 05/20/2007 7:00:08 AM PDT by cleveland gop (Dalton for Pres. '08!!!! Wizards, Nets put to sleep. Bring on the Pistons!!!!GO CAVS!!!!)
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To: stopem
If we don’t wake up to what is going on with this Immigration bill, China poisoning us with thier tainted food products, Liberals pushing thier agenda, and the media supporting them, and I suppose many other things we don’t even know about that are under mining all that is American, we can all kiss America goodbye, TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT IN OUR CAMP, THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE OTHER SIDE, CHOOSE WISLEY FOR 2008, LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.
43 posted on 05/20/2007 7:08:59 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: stopem
If we don’t wake up to what is going on with this Immigration bill, China poisoning us with thier tainted food products, Liberals pushing thier agenda, and the media supporting them, and I suppose many other things we don’t even know about that are under mining all that is American, we can all kiss America goodbye, TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT IN OUR CAMP, THEY ARE WORKING FOR THE OTHER SIDE, CHOOSE WISLEY FOR 2008, LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.
44 posted on 05/20/2007 7:09:01 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: dennisw

I believe this is good info to send to your elected Democrats. If you have two Democrat US Senators, this can turn them against the Amnestia Bill. I am sending this to Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow here in Michigan. Also, send to local offices, their staff needs to know this, so they can advise their bosses.


45 posted on 05/20/2007 7:09:48 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: MarkL
I love the part where supporters of the bill, like that blow-hard, BOR, talk about how these "new citizens" won't be eligible for government handouts... Right... Once they're citizens, there's a little concept called "equal protection under the law," but I guess BOR is too busy shouting to notice.

They don't need or want citizenship. The Z VISA legalizes them enough for gov't welfare, medical, housing, food stamps and will be very easy to get

46 posted on 05/20/2007 7:42:48 AM PDT by dennisw ("Libertarianism is applied autism" - Steve Sailer)
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To: dennisw

BUMP


47 posted on 05/20/2007 7:48:14 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: GOPJ

Well if it will kill SS I might be able to tolerate it. But that is not all it will kill. Our society will be drastically changed. Your children will not grow up in the country you did. It is too late.


48 posted on 05/20/2007 8:56:21 AM PDT by therut
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To: kingu
An illegal can walk onto a jobsite at almost any construction and get wages equal to anyone else, including benefits.

Why aren't these jobs being snapped up by Americans?

49 posted on 05/20/2007 2:18:42 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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