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Bush Removes Provision Requiring Back taxes From Illegal Immigrants
Boston Globe ^ | May 19, 2007 | Michael Kranish

Posted on 05/19/2007 3:54:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble

The Bush administration insisted on a little-noticed change in the bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would enable 12 million undocumented residents to avoid paying back taxes or associated fines to the Internal Revenue Service, officials said.

An independent analyst estimated the decision could cost the IRS tens of billions of dollars.

A provision requiring payment of back taxes had been in the initial version of a bill proposed by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat. But the administration called for the provision to be removed due to concern that it would be too difficult to figure out which illegal immigrants owed back taxes...

"It is important that the reformed immigration system is workable and cost efficient," Stanzel said. "Determining the past tax liability would have been very difficult and costly and extremely time consuming."...

Laura Capps, a spokeswoman for Kennedy, said a provision for requiring back taxes was in Kennedy's original bill and that Chertoff called for it to be removed. "Chertoff thought it would be too challenging to accurately determine the amount of an applicant's back taxes," she said.

Administration officials said many illegal immigrants do not get paychecks that can be audited, making it difficult to determine tax liability.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bohica; borders; buildthewall; bush; bushamnesty; bushsellout; congress; corruption; crime; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; lamigra; mexico; nationalsuicide; senate; traitorbush
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To: pleikumud
"Converting the millions of illegal aliens to legal citizenship should be a top priority"

Do you realize the implications of that statement?

141 posted on 05/19/2007 12:24:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Jim Noble

Since they have very low incomes, if illegals do file their tax returns for previous years then do they get the earned income tax credit, it is a prudent move by the President to get this off the bill.


142 posted on 05/19/2007 12:25:11 PM PDT by GregH
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To: pleikumud
You pull your head out of your a**, and try to get real.

You prefer that the illegal aliens be permanently illegal?

Where have you been for the twenty years...?? After the disastrous results of the 1986 debacle, not just yes, but HELL YES. Ensuring that they never have access to the ballot box is the least we can do. That is one of the prices they pay for their actions. A line in the sand has to be drawn now.

There hasn't been a single piece of immigration legislation of the last four decades where the pro-enforcement crowd hasn't wound up getting the shaft. Period.

Legalizing millions of illegals simply encourages even more illegal immigration and the '86 fiasco has simply proven that in spades.

If this legislation actually goes through the way Reid, Kennedy and Bush want it will tip irreversibly tip the balance of power in favor of the Democratic power, welfare and social services programs will be overwhelmed as never before and the southwest will simply evolve into our own "Quebec" within a matter of fifteen to twenty years.

A battle of attrition through enforcement must be waged over several years so that the bulk wind up self deporting at some point. This will serve to discourage even more illegals from coming when the realize that they won't really have a chance of remaining in the country.

This bill is so bad I don't even know where to begin. Jon Kyl must be being blackmailed. He says that this bill will ultimately end family chain migration. The problem is that provision will only kick in after TEN years. Who knows what the political situation will be like in ten years...?? The Democrats will simply try to amend the law by then. What's worse is that this kind of chain migration will be allowed to double or even triple within this ten year period!

Now for the worse part : Last night on Lou Dobbs they were exposing just a few of the loopholes in this monstrosity and they showed how one loophole grants the heads of the DHS the power to issue waivers that will allow immigrants and "Z" visa holders to sponsor other family member/relatives into the country for "humanitarian interests" or "family reunification"! So everything that Kyl is trying to sell is essentially a sham.

This is just appalling.

143 posted on 05/19/2007 12:30:58 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: MNJohnnie
This bill is a terrible and should be defeated but the rabid Bush haters do NOT help matters when they manufacture LIES about the bill.

Are you suggesting that the Boston Globe would lie...???

144 posted on 05/19/2007 12:34:07 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MNJohnnie
BS. This is just more of the nonsense made up BS from the rabid Bush haters. The provision for back taxes is IN the bill. This bill is a terrible and should be defeated but the rabid Bush haters do NOT help matters when they manufacture LIES about the bill.

Oh for pete's sake Johnnie, give it a rest. You're about the only one around here who is still looking through rose colored glasses!

I was very much pro Bush, until he sold America/Americans down the river, and now, I'm his worst enemy. You can now call me a "Bush hater" like you call everyone who doesn't look through your rose colored glasses.

He has done more to destroy our sovereignty than any President in history, and his legacy will stink to high hell throughout eternity. Of course, I don't expect you to understand what the rest of us are feeling towards him because you're in denial and that keeps you from seeing the truth!

145 posted on 05/19/2007 12:34:41 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Eagles6
No he doesn't or simply doesn't want to. Look at my post # 143.
146 posted on 05/19/2007 12:39:11 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia
Agreed. BTW we don't have to deport them, let them deport themselves.

Hammer every employer that employs illegals with serious jail time for the big cheeses.

End all but life and death emergency services for illegals, no school for the kids, no SSI or welfare for anyone.

Send every illegal that is identified in any way back to their home country.

Build the fence and enforce the border.

I honestly don't know what GWs idea is here.

Furture draftable cannon fodder for the coming war with china?

Helping illegals out of compassion? Taking money from my pocket to help someone else is not my idea of compassion.

Allowing a safety valve that keeps mexico afloat and out of the hands of the leftists? (My belief)

147 posted on 05/19/2007 1:03:30 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: lone star annie
Tax reform
148 posted on 05/19/2007 3:21:33 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Jim Noble
An independent analyst estimated the decision could cost the IRS tens of billions of dollars.

Escuse me, WHO?

149 posted on 05/19/2007 3:24:03 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: MNJohnnie

>This is just more of the nonsense made up BS from the rabid Bush haters.<

When you are joined by the hip, it CAN be somewhat uncomfortable to disagree, right? Just what about this administration’s border policy, and it’s creation of the North American Union do you like, Johnnie?


150 posted on 05/19/2007 3:27:55 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: Jim Noble

Pandering for the illegal alien vote


151 posted on 05/19/2007 3:31:00 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Jim Noble

Can we impeach him, ourselves?

Just saying...


152 posted on 05/19/2007 3:31:52 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (D is for Defeatism. R is for Reconquista.)
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To: Jim Noble

IRS could do what they do to waiters and assume a certain rate of income. In any case. most of these guys don’t make enough to pay income tax. That’s why I’m in favor of a sales tax.


153 posted on 05/19/2007 3:35:03 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Oh, if only our nation's capitol would break off and fall into the sea! Our government has become a hateful, stinking pile of corruption.

In all seriousness, that's a great line.

154 posted on 05/19/2007 4:33:09 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: sirchtruth
It pains me, but I can no longer support this President,

It took this long for you? I have to admit, I stopped believing in this President long ago (since Harriet Myers).
155 posted on 05/19/2007 10:29:21 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: pleikumud
Converting the millions of illegal aliens to legal Rcitizenship should be a top priority,

So you basically favor a $5000 amnesty plan. Seems like your lock-step with Bush the Democrats, and the illegals on this.
156 posted on 05/19/2007 10:33:01 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: pleikumud
You prefer that the illegal aliens be permanently illegal?

Yes.
157 posted on 05/19/2007 10:35:40 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: Jim Noble
Oh great! He wants to forgive the $$ for illegals, BUT he wants military vets to pay three times more for their tricare (healthcare).

Freakin unbelievable.

158 posted on 05/19/2007 10:46:10 PM PDT by Danette ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: cpdiii

I don’t blame her. If I had been a legal immigrant who did everything by the book, I would be mad. I would think why do they get a pass, when I didn’t? As a native-born citizen, I am furious. I think how come I have to follow laws, when these illegals don’t have to?


159 posted on 05/19/2007 10:46:33 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Thanks for nothing, Jorge! How come citizens have to follow laws, and illegals get special rights?)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Criminals have taken over the country.

Amen Brother. Those criminals thrive in liberal states, like New York, New Orleans, and, of course, Mexifornia.
160 posted on 05/19/2007 10:52:25 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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