Posted on 05/19/2007 3:54:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble
The Bush administration insisted on a little-noticed change in the bipartisan Senate immigration bill that would enable 12 million undocumented residents to avoid paying back taxes or associated fines to the Internal Revenue Service, officials said.
An independent analyst estimated the decision could cost the IRS tens of billions of dollars.
A provision requiring payment of back taxes had been in the initial version of a bill proposed by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat. But the administration called for the provision to be removed due to concern that it would be too difficult to figure out which illegal immigrants owed back taxes...
"It is important that the reformed immigration system is workable and cost efficient," Stanzel said. "Determining the past tax liability would have been very difficult and costly and extremely time consuming."...
Laura Capps, a spokeswoman for Kennedy, said a provision for requiring back taxes was in Kennedy's original bill and that Chertoff called for it to be removed. "Chertoff thought it would be too challenging to accurately determine the amount of an applicant's back taxes," she said.
Administration officials said many illegal immigrants do not get paychecks that can be audited, making it difficult to determine tax liability.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
This fact came from the same source where all his other facts come from.
Shhh ... don't tell Johnnie that the final bill is still being drafted. He could be tied up all day trying to find it and won't be making his slew of uninformed, annoying posts.
I suspected as much.
Thanks DB.
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Look, we have to get nasty! We protest, write emails, phone calls, picket, boycott anything and everything to get this parties attention! Conservatives don't live and die by getting elected to power like dems do. So this little stunt done by dopes to teach republicans a lesson by not voting for them was useless and boneheaded. The message obviously did not get thru to republicans because they don't view serving their constituents as a religion and don't care about political power. Right now there is no "viability" in the republican party because moderates have taken over, headed by Bush apperently!
We have too fight these moderates and kick their asses, not run from them like whimps! Moderate hold NO useful idea or stances. If we would just stand, we end up slaughtering them!
I have a feeling you don't really believe the part about "This bill is a terrible and should be defeated..." If you did, it wouldn't be followed by a "...but..." There IS no BUT about it. It's blatantly terrible and even non-rabid Bush haters can agree that he is not only ignoring the will of the people, he is proud of it.
I guess I'll put myself on the list of those who have questioned you and not yet received an answer: Have you seen the bill? If not, how do you know what is or isn't in it?
Chertoff called for it to be removed. “Chertoff thought it would be too challenging to accurately determine the amount of an applicant’s back taxes,” she said.
I have a very simple question. Why is the Director of Homeland Security focussing on taxes?
He should have one concern and one concern only - Does this bill make our Homeland more secure? Let other bureaucrats e.g. Secretary of the Treasury address financial and tax concerns.
"Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
The American people get their tax cuts taken away because THEY are going to give them to the 'common good' i.e., the USA usurpers, illegal 'immigrants'.
Does anyone know where we can get the actual text of the proposal? Note that it is not even a bill yet. The Senate will amend the crap out of it before it ever gets voted on. But what is the explicit text in the proposal?
This moment, we don’t even know if there is amnesty in it. All we seem to know is that lots of pundits say there is amnesty in it. Where is the text itself?
they just want us to pay for all of this. they don’t care and the only people you can discriminate against is the white men and tax payers.
amazing. they can make anything legal. and yet we pay them for this??????
they just want us to pay for all of this. they don’t care and the only people you can discriminate against is the white men and tax payers.
amazing. they can make anything legal. and yet we pay them for this??????
If there is one thing that conservatives have done in the last decade it is to put the IRS in a box, and having the IRS try to collect back taxes for this fiasco will be the IRS reconstitution bonanza of the millenium. Who are they going to go after - workers or employers, who at this point is probably most of the rest of us. All you will do is legalize the illegals you will now make outlaws of the citizenry.
And why do you want the feral gubmint to get more money anyway. I want as few people paying as little tax as possible because each extra dollar hires an extra bureaucrat to make my life hell.
WHAT A LOAD OF GARBAGE!!!!!!!
Just wait until amnesty allows all those formerly illegals to bring their parents - who will then suck up the pathetic little that remains of our social security.
I’m 60 - I do not expect to see anything of the money they have taken from me since I was 16 (and that was a long long time ago!)
But I bet those amnesty-awarded aliens’ parents will get some of it!
And you know this? How?
Eagles up!
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“Or do you envision putting 20 million people on railroad boxcars bound for the Mexican border?”
Not at all. They should be retunred to Mexico City, via airplane.
Too hard to determine tax liability?
This is unbelievable. Simply shocking.
What the HELL is going on?!
I’d be better off being illegal. I think it would behoove me to change my name (I am fluent enough in Spanish), make up a SSN, and then never pay taxes. I could keep my real jobs and earn some extra cash tax free - it would be “too difficult to determine my tax liability”.
Another reason to never, ever, being filing. Once you file, they’ve got you by the balls. If you’ve ever reported, don’t stop. But if you’ve never started, hey man - it would be too hard to determine your tax liability!
I can no longer support this President.
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