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To: patriciaruth
I tried voting for Prop 187 in 1994 in California. They tried putting employer sanctions in the 1988 Amnesty bill that Reagan signed, and Congress wouldn't let them enforce them. How do you propose to go out creating the machinery for your solution?

First, enforcement is up to the executive branch. The 'machinery' would have to do away with our current political system....Dems and REpubs...shake 'em up and they all come out the same.

Do you know who destroyed Prop. 187? And the reform of 1996? The very same people who have crafted this legislation for the Bush Administration.

Namely Cesar Conda, former domestic policy advisor for Cheney

and Grover Norquist, Bush's main immigration man, whose brother David Norquist is Chief Financial Officer at the Department of Homeland Security. His wife also works for Bush at USAID, a palestinian Muslim.

And that's the sad truth of it.

Cesar Conda earned the wraith of the Ludwig von Mises Institute: “Joining in this richly-funded campaign of hysteria and smear was the entire official libertarian (or Left-libertarian) movement, including virtually every “free-market” and “libertarian” think tank except the Mises Institute. ... For their part, the neo-conservative and official libertarian think tanks joined the elite condemnation of Prop. 187. Working closely with Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute, Cesar Conda of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution circulated a statement against the measure that was signed by individuals at the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, the Manhattan Institute, the Reason Foundation, and even the Competitive Enterprise Institute.” [13]

(http://www.mises.org/econsense/postscript.asp#p407) _____________________

In a letter to the WSJ signed with Grover Norquist, Tamar Jacoby, Newt Gingrich, Cesar Conda and others he promoted Bush/Kennedy Amnesty as the only workable approach.

snip] The Wall Street Journal February 6, 2004 Welcome to America

President Bush has proposed a new legal path to work in the U.S. through a temporary worker program that will match willing workers with willing employers. We applaud the president and believe his approach holds great promise to reduce illegal immigration and establish a humane, orderly, and economically sensible approach to migration that will aid homeland security and free up border-security assets to focus on genuine threats. The president has shown courage by calling on Congress to place reality over rhetoric and recognize that those already working here outside the law are unlikely to leave. Congress can fulfill its role by establishing sufficient increases in legal immigration and paths to permanent residence to enable more workers to stay, assimilate, and become part of America.

Immigrants are crucial to our competitiveness and future labor and economic growth, as well as our military strength. Our country’s welcoming attitude to immigrants will permit the U.S. to grow and prosper, as the populations of many other nations stagnate and decline.

Co-authored by Stuart Anderson, Jeff Bell, Linda Chavez, Larry Cirignano, Cesar V. Conda, Francis Fukuyama, Richard Gilder, Newt Gingrich, Ed Goeas, Tamar Jacoby, Jack Kemp, Steve Moore, Grover Norquist, Richard W. Rahn and Malcolm Wallop http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/02/newt-gingrich-conservative-not-on.html

65 posted on 05/19/2007 6:24:53 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
Do you know who destroyed Prop. 187?

My information is that Prop 187 was declared unconstitutional by our liberal courts out here, and when the Democrats took control of the Governship, they declined to continue the fight up to the Supreme Court. Governor Gray Davis said he was just going to accept the decisions that stood at the time he took office.

All those other people you blame in the Bush administration ... well, the "Bush's fault" mantra won't work here with me as Bush wasn't involved in the decision of Gov. Gray Davis (Democrat) back in the 1990's.

76 posted on 05/20/2007 12:35:07 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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