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Details Revealed of Senate Compromise Bill
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | 05/17/2007 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 05/18/2007 7:48:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: patriciaruth
What Democrat is paying your bills?

I take this that you are pro-amnesty. Amnesty permanently changes this country and it must be defeated at any cost. (and I'm sure Bush chooses to veto amnesty.)
If you have a better idea, let us know. This is far more important than anything else.
21 posted on 05/18/2007 9:59:22 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: latteconservative

I’m not interested in taking advice from a newbie who wants to stop the support of the troops and impeach the President...and put Nancy Pelosi in the Oval Office.

YOU need to get a better idea.


22 posted on 05/18/2007 10:00:46 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth

please share your idea so we can hear it.


23 posted on 05/18/2007 10:02:57 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: latteconservative

We already lost the War of the Reconquista here in California.

Where were you when we were voting for Prop 187 thirteen years ago? Voting for Bill Clinton?


24 posted on 05/18/2007 10:14:28 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth

I was getting my green card then. I guess I could have voted but I wanted to law-abiding person.


25 posted on 05/18/2007 10:21:18 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: neverdem; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping...


26 posted on 05/18/2007 10:27:27 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: latteconservative

Conservatives don’t drink latte.

What country do you hale from?


27 posted on 05/18/2007 10:27:29 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
Conservatives don’t drink latte.

huh?
ok, tell me what are authorized drinks for conservatives? Do I need a permit?
Anyway, I want to keep some privacy. I'm just sick of amnesty. I worked hard for my new citizenship, I paid taxes every year and all damn fees and went through interviews. So should everybody else.
28 posted on 05/18/2007 10:32:52 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: latteconservative

Well, that’s the idea of this bill, to make them all get in line with everyone else.

The dirty little secret is that the American economy can’t grow without increases in population and a worker class.

A lot of Americans bought into the zero population growth idea as a way to save the planet, so we are having to import other people’s children to fill the lower jobs that our citizens have worked their way up and out of and into the middle class.


29 posted on 05/18/2007 10:39:01 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: latteconservative

P.S. We try not to swear on this web site. It offends those who believe in G_d.


30 posted on 05/18/2007 10:41:53 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
now we are rejecting foreign PhDs and doctors but importing unskilled welfare recipients who are flooring hospitals and schools (and prisons). It makes no sense. Besides, economy can grow easily without importing welfare recipients. Illegals can often be replaced by machines (it would actually help our manufacturing companies). Anyway, amnesty bill must be defeated at any cost. I'm all for legal temporary workers (as needed) but not for uninvited illegals.

31 posted on 05/18/2007 10:45:58 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: latteconservative
defeated at "any" cost?

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Oh yeah, The deeper you dig the harder it will be to get out.

Do you grasp the difference between 'this candidate does not share ALL of my views' and 'this candidate does not share ANY of my views'?

In 2006, many chose ideological purity as a higher priority than keeping Nancy Pelosi and her gang of outright raving lunatics away from the reins of power. As a result, we now have Queen Nancy and her lunatics holding the reins of power.

32 posted on 05/18/2007 11:03:04 PM PDT by anglian
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To: latteconservative

You may not believe it, but there is a demand for noneducated lower skilled workers.

This bill makes a visa for temporary lower skilled workers, who have to go home. The employer can hire them if he has advertised the jobs at a fair wage.

And there is the high tech ID card they are supposed to carry to prove they are legal.

Now, whether all that will make a whit of difference has yet to be proved. There will always be sweatshops bringing in illegals to pay them dirt. The question is whether the illegal flow will be lessened to the extent that ICE can handle it and that American citizens and legals will turn in the illegals they learn about.


33 posted on 05/18/2007 11:05:09 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: anglian

This is the most important piece of legislation of our lifetime. It must be stopped. House can be shut down, public pressure applied but congress tries to pass this within a few days. There may not be enough time for a real campaign. Last resort is to _force_ Bush to veto this (or face total revolt and active anti-Bush campaign). I’m sure Bush has to veto it then.
If this bill passes, there will be permanent democratic super majority in congress and dems win WH every time. That should teach people a lesson. Republican party is finished forever if this passes.
I don’t require that candidate support all my views. However, amnesty is the litmus test. It is even more important than WOT.


34 posted on 05/18/2007 11:09:50 PM PDT by latteconservative
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To: neverdem
This is supposed to be fleshed out to 600 - 1000 pages.
And if it gets passed the percentage of all of those pages getting read by every legislator is 2% or less.
It'll get passed with 98% of them not even knowing what it says and what they're passing.
(thus the emphasis to 'get 'er done' quick. too much scrutiny will ruin it!)
35 posted on 05/19/2007 1:26:27 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: patriciaruth
The question is whether the illegal flow will be lessened to the extent that ICE can handle it and that American citizens and legals will turn in the illegals they learn about.

I'm guessing it'll be "No" on all counts.

36 posted on 05/19/2007 1:37:00 AM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: quantim
This is why no senator will be elected POTUS, thankfully - look at the cast, both parties.

What if both parties combine delegate support from two candidates to create a ticket no-one wants? And it's the battle of the traitors?

If it's not that, it'll be either candidates with no track records on these disgusting votes of the past few years (Governors, ex-mayors, military, appointes, movie stars, etc.) or HOR members.

I would hope both parties could get HOR members in there....we know where most of them are at.

37 posted on 05/19/2007 3:13:30 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: latteconservative
You have said in several of your posts, “If you have a better idea, let us know.”

On Rush’s program Friday, he said, “ Hugh Hewitt on his blog today at Townhall.com said something really, really good, and I want to share this with you. He wrote: “GOP Leader McConnell has got to recognize the spreading disaster and call a very public halt to it, and do so with transparency, something along the lines of ‘Well, we tried, but it is clear that our party is opposed to the only bill the Democrats would allow to get to the floor, so it is shelved until after 2008. The presidential candidates will have to debate it as will our respective parties, but the GOP is for border security first.’”

This sounds doable and workable. This is a Kennedy/Democrat plan. Put it back on their shoulders and not the Republicans.

38 posted on 05/19/2007 3:42:43 AM PDT by Humal
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To: latteconservative

I’ve letters from my Senators and Rep stating an opposition to any form of amnesty. I’m sending them a copy of their “promises” - just to remind them of their positions...


39 posted on 05/19/2007 3:53:16 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: patriciaruth

“Deportations are going on at the rate of over 700 a day, but that can’t solve the problem as there are too many here now.”

700 a day is at best a half ass effort. Why not a 2,000 per day or more? At the same time DO NOT legalize those that are here and seal the border?

Its just a simple solution that has never been tried. A REAL effort to seal the border and a REAL effort to send as many back per year as we can. Not amnesty. We do not have to send all of them back at once, but we cannot throw up our hands after at best a half ass effort and buy the illegal alien lobby mantra “it can’t be done”.


40 posted on 05/19/2007 5:27:31 AM PDT by Rosemont
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