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Marines to use Web maps in Iraq murder case
NC Times ^ | May 18, 2007 | TERI FIGUEROA

Posted on 05/18/2007 5:04:32 PM PDT by freema

CAMP PENDLETON -- Jurors in the upcoming trial of a Marine corporal accused of killing an Iraqi civilian will be allowed to view computerized aerial maps from the popular Google Earth program to help them see the geographic layout of the scene, a military judge ruled Thursday.

"I believe these (images) may actually help the members understand what happened that night," Lt. Col. David M. Jones said.

Jones' ruling came during a hearing centered on pretrial issues for Cpl. Trent Thomas, one of eight Camp Pendleton troops accused in the April 26, 2006 slaying of Hashim Ibrahim Awad in the rural Iraqi village of Hamdania.

Taking the stand for about two hours Thursday was one of Thomas' co-defendants, Pvt. Robert Pennington, who was demoted in rank from lance corporal as punishment for his guilty plea to his role in the Awad incident. Pennington is also serving an eight-year prison sentence.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: frwn; marines; pendleton8; usmc
Be sure to read the comments that follow the article.
1 posted on 05/18/2007 5:04:34 PM PDT by freema
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/18/2007 5:05:16 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema
haven’t been following this case lately so please correct me if I'm wrong but didn’t they have satellite photos/video of the entire incident???
3 posted on 05/18/2007 5:10:13 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The case you refer to would be Haditha - Terrazzas killed by IED...women and children killed in house clearing

This is Pendleton 8=Hamandiya/Hamdanya/Hamdandia - Shot Awad in a hole.


4 posted on 05/18/2007 5:19:43 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Some mighty smart people out by Camp Pen.


5 posted on 05/18/2007 5:25:55 PM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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To: freema
oh okay, thanks for straightening me out. LOL
6 posted on 05/18/2007 5:38:24 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: freema

Thanks for the heads up on reading the comments. There seems to be a jerk off in every crowd.


7 posted on 05/18/2007 5:49:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: kellynla

It does look like a barroom joke, doesn’t it.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 5:49:39 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: RedRover

Yeah. Things sure have quieted down in the TOD, haven’t they.


9 posted on 05/18/2007 5:50:52 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: jazusamo

One has come to expect a jerk off or two with shooting Awad in a hole.


10 posted on 05/18/2007 5:52:29 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Well as I have told you before, I expect ALL of these Marines to be exonerated.
No autopsy, no case.

But I am so disgusted with the way that these Marines have been “railroaded” by the Corps. And the way they have been treated is outrageous.

Have a good weekend.
I’m outa here.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


11 posted on 05/18/2007 5:58:35 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: freema
I can't help but feel in this case there was foul play. While in the Haditha case it was a pure scandal created by a goon being followed up by some lilly white wristed clown from Time.
Totally different set of circumstances and totally different actions taken by our Marines.
12 posted on 05/18/2007 6:03:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: kellynla

Have a good weekend, too!


13 posted on 05/18/2007 6:28:35 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

(Snicker, snicker..)


14 posted on 05/18/2007 6:43:45 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Marine_Uncle

I look at it like this, which was posted in the comments section of the forum following the article, although I’m reserving judgement on Mattis at present:

Brother Of Pennington wrote on May 17, 2007 4:45 PM:
“ Aequitas, you speak the truth. Many sit from their peanut gallery seats, having never served in the military, much less in hot war zone, and proclaim every one of these men to be monsters who deserve to be thrown in a dark place with the key conveniently lost. No wants to pay attention to the fact that these men had been strained to their limits (my brother was on his 3rd tour in Iraq, all in hot combat zones), weren’t given permission to protect themselves, and sent out on patrols which seemed to have the purpose of sending our guys out like target signs for snipers, and with no real clear mission other than the laughable hope that they could catch an insurgent in the act of terrorism. My brother has told me, that during his first two tours this was not the case. By this third tour, The American military stopped letting the Marines protect themselves, released known insurgents, and held the Marines in Hamadania to a peace time police officer’s standards. A Marine is not a police officer, and hasn’t been trained as one. Hamadania is and was not a peaceful town and shouldn’t be considered as such by any. My brother had no, zero, zilch criminal record before this incident. Up until this incident he had been seen as an exemplary Marine, so what, did he just go bad overnight? I can’t understand how the naysayer’s of these men put not accountability on the Marine brass. The grunts take all the heat, while Mattis gets another star. “


15 posted on 05/18/2007 6:43:55 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Thanks for the ping, looks like I can reply on this thread.


16 posted on 05/18/2007 7:21:54 PM PDT by lilycicero
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To: 2111USMC

17 posted on 05/19/2007 5:27:28 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: lilycicero

Good!


18 posted on 05/19/2007 5:29:02 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema
I can appreciate all the points brought forth by this Marine's brother.
But the fact remains this case is totally different then the Haditha case. This one accuses Marines of doing something outside of their ROE while not under direct fire, whereas the other case clearly indicates acceptable actions taken under attack.
That does not mean that in my heart I wish they all could get off the hook due to the very nature of all their missions. I do not in the least dispute the gravity/danger levels either patrols had encountered on a daily basis.
19 posted on 05/19/2007 6:20:29 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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