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Dorgan Opposes Temporary Worker Program
KFYR TV - Bismark, ND ^ | 5/18/2007 | Not Attributed

Posted on 05/18/2007 3:44:35 PM PDT by TxCopper

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To: stpickrell
I believe they would go home if they understood it would jeopardize their ever coming back to the USA if caught.

These guys and gals can make enough working on the farms and ranches during harvest time to live very well down in most parts of Mexico during the winter.

Most of the Mexicans around here tell me that if they had a temporary worker permit to let them back into the country to work they would rather go home to be with family and friends.

21 posted on 05/19/2007 12:19:30 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: dennisw

You got my vote.


22 posted on 05/19/2007 12:20:54 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: TxCopper

Prediction: Savage will tomorrow have Byron Dorgan on. Prediction: He will also invite Mel Martinez, who will decline. Prediction: Savage will be bashed by FReepers for catering to Democrats. Fair?


23 posted on 05/19/2007 12:21:39 AM PDT by montag813
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To: OKIEDOC
Most of the Mexicans around here tell me that if they had a temporary worker permit to let them back into the country to work they would rather go home to be with family and friends.

Don't believe them. The history of guest worker programs shows many never return home. You can check out the Turk guest workers in Europe and Germany. "Operation Wetback" was instituted by Eisenhower because Mexicans were not returning home after making big bucks here

24 posted on 05/19/2007 12:51:14 AM PDT by dennisw ("Libertarianism is applied autism" - Steve Sailer)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I think we should not allow temporary workers at all.
End the welfare state and watch those welfare receivers start working the fields to eat.


25 posted on 05/19/2007 3:23:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: OKIEDOC
I am all for a structured for farm workers only “F” visa for Farmworker.

Me too. Farm work is the only work that it is nearly impossible to get locals to do. Our farms would be up the creek around here without migrants. Nothing else though. No factories, etc. They need to work the crops and then go home.

26 posted on 05/19/2007 5:31:59 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: Joe Boucher

I hate to tell you this, but everyone, including Tancredo, acknowledges the need for guest workers.


27 posted on 05/19/2007 6:55:04 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Fine, I just don’t agree.
Stop our welfare state and offer those sitting around receiving checks a job in the fields. If not, tough, starve.
Not my problem if you failed to try in school and have NO skills. I shouldn’t have to pay for your sorry butt.


28 posted on 05/19/2007 9:20:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Melinda in TN
My folks were some of the Okies who came to Kalifornia and made it a better state for many years to come.

My much older sister when she was 7 years old picked fruit right along with my father, mother and older brother.

They made enough money by doing what most Americans would not do to eventually buy a home and a 300 acre orchard and put in a spraying business for the crops.

My father always said that unless American kids were starving the farmers would need the help of cheap Mexican labor.

Unless there is another depression or a dust bowl then that message has not changed for 60 years and will not change in the immediate future.

29 posted on 05/19/2007 1:06:53 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Joe Boucher
Joe Boucher wrote:
Stop our welfare state and offer those sitting around receiving checks a job in the fields. If not, tough, starve.

COMMENT:

Had you studied Econ 101 in college you would know that a certain percentage of the population will not work and that starvation and Communist work programs does not phase them.

Also, how do you purpose to get those lazy, no good Northerners or Easterners out West or down South to work in the fields?

The cost of transportation would be prohibitive.

That is of course unless the Gestopo could round up the useless no goodNorthern or Eastern vermin and put them into cattle cars and send them to internment camps.

Joe Boucher wrote:
Not my problem if you failed to try in school and have NO skills. I shouldn’t have to pay for your sorry butt.

COMMENT:

Sorry Joe but it is your problem for not demanding more from your educational system.

30 posted on 05/19/2007 1:21:30 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: OKIEDOC

In the free enterprise system when jobs in an area dry up,folks move to feed their families. Look at what happened to the steel industry and the garment industry.
As for our education system it is teachers unions and politicians that have failed our education system.
Oh yeah, and if the mexicans can figure a way to get to those field jobs I’d have to think “those lazy, no good Northerners or Easterners”could figure a way to get “out West or down South to work in the fields” Actually the mid west to the corn belt and Michigan as well.


31 posted on 05/19/2007 1:49:21 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher
Senor Joe we are probably closer than you think on this subject.

We here in Kalifornia need the back labor afforded by the illegals.

However like most in this predominately Hispanic berg they and I believe their is a better way to get the needed labor than letting it slip across our Southern border.

The current immigration bill is a farce and in my opinion a gift to law breakers.

Why can we not just set up some agricultural field offices in several border towns and issue a temporary work permit that guarantees nothing but the right to work at an agricultural job for the length of a harvest season.

Then we need to fence those areas of high border crossings and put a stop to illegal immigration.

The penalty for being caught for illegal entry should be about what some other countries in our neighborhood place on such law breakers.

I can tell you after having lived in several foreign countries that they do not put up with this American namby pamby treatment of illegals.

32 posted on 05/19/2007 3:55:45 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: OKIEDOC

I lived in Calif for 17 years and now in south Florida. Both have massive illegal problems as well as a need for agriculture workers.
Problem is if you allow a half million pickers to come in at a time, 499,990 will not return from whence they came. Then with support from liberals they bring in another truckload of family members.


33 posted on 05/20/2007 1:48:16 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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