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Bush hails deal on immigration reform
Associated Press ^ | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

Posted on 05/17/2007 12:16:18 PM PDT by 300magnum

WASHINGTON - Key senators in both parties and the White House announced agreement Thursday on an immigration overhaul that would grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border.

The plan would create a temporary worker program to bring new arrivals to the U.S and a separate program to cover agricultural workers. Skills and education-level would for the first time be weighted over family connections in deciding whether future immigrants should get permanent legal status. New high-tech employment verification measures also would be instituted to ensure that workers are here legally.

The compromise came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with President Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.

Bush called it "a much-needed solution to the problem of illegal immigration in this country" and said, if approved, the proposal "delivers an immigration system that is secure, productive, orderly and fair."

"With this bipartisan agreement, I am confident leaders in Washington can have a serious, civil and conclusive debate so I can sign comprehensive reform into law this year," he said in a written statement. Bush planned to make remarks about the bill later Thursday at the White House.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, his party's lead negotiator on the deal, hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."

Anticipating criticism from conservatives, Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said, "It is not amnesty. This will restore the rule of law."

The accord sets the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., called the proposal a "starting point" for that debate, but added that it needs improvement.

"I have serious concerns about some aspects of this proposal, including the structure of the temporary worker program and undue limitations on family immigration," Reid said in a statement.

The key breakthrough came when negotiators struck a bargain on a so-called "point system" that prioritizes immigrants' education and skill level over family connections in deciding how to award green cards.

The immigration issue also divides both parties in the House, which isn't expected to act unless the Senate passes a bill first.

The proposed agreement would allow illegal immigrants to come forward and obtain a "Z visa" and — after paying fees and a $5,000 fine — ultimately get on track for permanent residency, which could take between eight and 13 years. Heads of household would have to return to their home countries first.

They could come forward right away to claim a probationary card that would let them live and work legally in the U.S., but could not begin the path to permanent residency or citizenship until border security improvements and the high-tech worker identification program were completed.

A new temporary guest worker program would also have to wait until those so-called "triggers" had been activated.

Those workers would have to return home after work stints of two years, with little opportunity to gain permanent legal status or ever become U.S. citizens. They could renew their guest worker visas twice, but would be required to leave for a year in between each time.

Democrats had pressed instead for guest workers to be permitted to stay and work indefinitely in the U.S.

In perhaps the most hotly debated change, the proposed plan would shift from an immigration system primarily weighted toward family ties toward one with preferences for people with advanced degrees and sophisticated skills. Republicans have long sought such revisions, which they say are needed to end "chain migration" that harms the economy, while some Democrats and liberal groups say it's an unfair system that rips families apart.

Family connections alone would no longer be enough to qualify for a green card — except for spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens.

New limits would apply to U.S. citizens seeking to bring foreign-born parents into the country.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigrantlist; immigration; presidentejorge; treason
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To: newcthem
At least Clinton stuck to BJs instead of trying to f*ck the entire country, like Jorge.

Clinton did more than his fair share of screwing the country.

181 posted on 05/17/2007 1:25:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: shempy
Bush sucks, completely. It is as simple as that. Does anybody still support him?

Not me. I can't wait until the next "Presidential approval rating" poll comes out. He has knifed the last remaining core of his supporters in the back. He will get numbers that make Carter and Nixon look stellar (at their nadir) in comparision.

The Republican Presidential candidates will be free to distance themselves from him politically. It will not just be the Rats railing against George Bush in the debates.

182 posted on 05/17/2007 1:25:53 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: hunter112

I doubt he cares. He’s not running again.


183 posted on 05/17/2007 1:26:24 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: 300magnum
I hate this.

Anyone who has observed Washington, DC for any length of time knows precisely what is going to happen. The border enforcement provisions of the bill will be watered down by Democrats, and weak-kneed Republicans will go along, hoping no one notices. The border provisions will never be enforced, anyway. The money and the manpower are not there, nor will they ever be authorized.

The regulations that determine the "path to citizenship" will be written by committee staffers, and will wind up being so complex and cumbersome that they will rarely (if ever) be enforced. If they ever are, lawyers will descend, lawsuits in hand, to stop them.

So: It's Amnesty. 20 million new "citizens" who don't speak the language or pay taxes, but collect welfare benefits and vote for Democrats. As Ted Kennedy would say: "Hasta la Victoria!"

Great nations do not die because they are conquered: they commit suicide.

184 posted on 05/17/2007 1:26:31 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: spectre

Is it possible for Bush’s approval rating to go to zero?/ He certainly has a shot at it if he signs this crap into law !!


185 posted on 05/17/2007 1:29:37 PM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: RC2

The 14th ammendment that states that was only for the black slaves, not immagrants.
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You must have a different copy of the Constitution and its amendments than I do.

Section 1 (the relevant section to our discussion) reads as follows: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States wherein they reside.

Any other portions of the Constitution you would like to see ignored? There just is no wiggle room in the words “all persons born or naturalized” is there?


186 posted on 05/17/2007 1:29:37 PM PDT by dmz
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To: PghBaldy
Look this is what it all boils down to, these people in Washington are no different than the celebrities in hollyweird,they do not respect the rule of law or the ten commandments. These people feel they are above the law and can do as they please. And that means they can turn the United States into a third world country.Right now these Washington jackasses are NOT paying attention to Iran because they are too busy making life easier for the RICH in MEXICO. Please will somebody explain to me why Mexico cannot take care of their own people? Do these jackasses believe that these illegals are the only ones who can be poor or to have problems? Why are these people so important than Americans who can't afford medicine? This has got to stop! It is their job to protect this country and serve this country for the people of the United States.There has got to be a way to show these jackasses and the President that we are all sick of them. The way those people acted while they paraded around giving the rest of us the finger and what does the government do? They turn around and give Americans the finger and everyone knows here and across the country there is not a damn thing any of us can do about it!
187 posted on 05/17/2007 1:29:38 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: All

188 posted on 05/17/2007 1:30:06 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: hophead

And the SELL OUT of the AMERICAN people begins!
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Begins? Continues apace is a bit closer to the truth.


189 posted on 05/17/2007 1:30:18 PM PDT by dmz
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To: VU4G10

There are fewer Mexicans in Mexico.


190 posted on 05/17/2007 1:31:28 PM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: 300magnum

Well there goes the last 20%


191 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:07 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: 300magnum

I’m ticked!

If the conservative movement could get this president to change his mind on Harriet Miers then by God, this movement should be able to make enough noise and stop this crap! I’m writing the White House today to express my anger for this! I voted for this man twice. Rule of law means nothing now if millions of LAWBREAKING CRIMINALS will be given amnesty.


192 posted on 05/17/2007 1:32:50 PM PDT by Sister_T (The Axis of Idiocy: The LameStream Media, The DemocRATS and the "peaceful" anti-war moonbats)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

In fact, as far as I’m concerned, there ARE no laws in the US that I am bound to respect.

Sorry. I you’re a white or asian male, you must obey all laws. Anything other than, wink wink.


193 posted on 05/17/2007 1:33:51 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: 300magnum

I was lucky enough to meet one ex-President years ago. It was acually kind of cool to say “Good evening, Mr. President.” I’ve always told myself that I’d say the same to any ex-president, even if (gag!) I stumbled across one of the two C’s. If I ever meet this president, I will say the following:

Beunos dias, Senor Presidente!

I’m completely serious...the honor that the office deserves, the truth that he deserves.

He says this will solve the problem without animosity and without amnesty. Once again, he’s wrong. He’s getting both!


194 posted on 05/17/2007 1:35:57 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: shempy

I’ve voted for him and supported him for the last time.. Maybe he does need to be impeached !!! I have to wonder what Cheney would do on this >>>


195 posted on 05/17/2007 1:37:53 PM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: DakotaRed

Now there is a great idea!


196 posted on 05/17/2007 1:40:38 PM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: NYleatherneck
Bush's "new America", which he said we all agreed to, is on its way!

THE "NEW AMERICAN"
..........<

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

197 posted on 05/17/2007 1:42:07 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: GRRRRR
I’ll never vote for him again.

Yeah, but will you vote for Jeb or George P. Bush?

198 posted on 05/17/2007 1:43:54 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: dmz

“And the SELL OUT of the AMERICAN people begins”

In EARNEST I should have said.


199 posted on 05/17/2007 1:44:41 PM PDT by hophead
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To: 300magnum
Toll-Free Capitol Switchboard Number: 1-800-459-1887


US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: Locate And Contact YOUR Representative HERE.

US SENATE: Locate And Contact YOUR Senators HERE.

Call That Number And Ask For Your Senators & Representatives - NOW!

*** Call them and demand they vote "NO" on ANY "guest-worker" plan allowing illegal aliens to get any kind of "delayed-amnesty"!

*** Call them and demand that they SUPPORT THE RULE OF LAW and do NOT reward long-time lawbreakers!!!

*** Call them and tell them that they're spitting in the face of every LEGAL immigrant who played by the rules, paid their dues, obeyed the law and waited their turn for the PRIVILEGE to come here!!!

*** Tell your Rep that the illegals are rushing the border NOW in anticipation of a "guest-worker" plan passing the Senate!

*** The Senate bill is LOADED with huge loopholes and is RIPE for widespread abuse!

*** They need to go to the back of the line in their own home country and start over!

*** Coming into this country is a PRIVILEGE, not a "right"!


*** This Senate bill would allow 79 million to 217 million new immigrants in over the next 20 years!

*** Do NOT fall for the BIG LIE that Americans won't work basic-skill jobs!

*** Americans DID all these jobs before there were 15 million illegal aliens working for sub-minimum wage!

*** Illegal immigrants AND the employers that hire them are keeping wages for these jobs too low and THAT is a crime against ALL low-income Americans and HONEST immigrants!

*** We are a sovereign nation that follows the rule of law, not the will of screaming law-breakers marching under another nation's flag!

*** Stand up for the rule of law!

*** VOTE NO ON THIS "GUEST-WORKER/DELAYED-AMNESTY" PLAN FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!




200 posted on 05/17/2007 1:48:05 PM PDT by The_Macallan
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