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To: Dante3

I can’t support a position that bears striking resemblance to the ponderings of the “Jewish question” c. 1935.

It’s an abomination to treat these people like human trash.

I’m all in favor of giving the government as much power as it needs to seal the borders, but we’re heading down a road of vile scapegoating when it comes to illegal aliens. Take the politicians to task for their dereliction. The illegal immigrant is no more an opportunist than they are.


663 posted on 05/17/2007 1:30:28 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Rutles4Ever
How dare you compare the opinions we conservatives hold to the "ponderings of the 'Jewish Question' ".

How DARE YOU!

Just WHO is treating these people (illegals) like "human trash". Just WHO is "abominable" for doing this?

It seems to me the illegals are doing pretty well right now with more goodies to come. Why don't you fulminate against the coyotes, mules and drug runners who consistently murder their own compadres or abandon them to the perils of the desert. It's not Americans who are the coyotes, mules and drug merchants. I've seen nothing in your posts on this.

You are just another hate-America person. We're always in the wrong, aren't we? We resemble the Nazis who "pondered the Jewish question", right?

Get lost.

Leni

710 posted on 05/17/2007 1:41:44 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Rutles4Ever
There is an old rule to the effect that anyone who cites Nazi practices (the ponderings of the “Jewish question” c. 1935) loses. The fact is that these immigrants are here illegally, in other words, they are criminals. As far as treating these people like human trash, by what standard do the illegals have any claim to the state run hospital, education, and welfare services for which they have not paid?

The only solution to the illegals already in this country is enforcing the laws vigorously, cutting off social services, and making their life sufficiently difficult to make them want to return to their native countries. Proof of citizenship should be required before a person transfers title to vehicles or records a deed of trust on real estate. No illegal or their dependent children should receive education or welfare services on the taxpayers' money. If they do need publicly funded medical service, the Federal government should present a bill for said services to the nation of their origin, and if that nation refuses to pay, either end most favored nation trading status or seize assets owned by their government or their nationals in the United States. Impose a high tax, maybe 50%, on individual remittances to entities in foreign countries. Any state or local government that declares a sanctuary for illegals or forbids its police from enforcing immigration laws should be subject to 100% cutoff of Federal funding - law enforcement subsidies, highways, education. Any illegal who commits a crime, even a misdemeanor, should be immediately shipped back to his nation of origin. Employer sanctions are needed as well.

Finally, a real wall, not a virtual wall, must be built from Brownsville to San Diego. Until the wall is complete, the National Guard and regular military should patrol the borders, with rules of engagement that will permit effective enforcement and put the fear of God into wannabe illegals and the gangsters that smuggle them into the country.

If America is worth defending 8,000 miles away in Iraq, it is worth preserving at home. Unchecked immigration, legal or not, will transform the United States into at best a democratic socialist nation like most of Western Europe or at worst a Third World oligarchy.

754 posted on 05/17/2007 1:52:47 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Rutles4Ever

I want them deported, not killed.


764 posted on 05/17/2007 1:55:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Illegal immigrants are criminals, a substantial number of them highly dangerous to our security. Just look into the actions of the Russian Mafia, the MS-13, the Asian home invasion gangs. We should just enforce our laws and deport them through direct or indirect means.

What is an abomination is to allow them invade us and wave the white flag. It is outrageous to expect me to work hard for their benefit - including them getting benefits denied to us legal taxpayers.

949 posted on 05/17/2007 2:56:17 PM PDT by Dante3
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