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To: ZULU
Then we may have to look elsewhere if the House approves this piece of treason.

You're one of the more informed posters on this subject, so I'll direct a few questions your way:

1. How long have Europeans been in N American?
2. How long has the region incorporated within the Louisiana purchase been part of the USA?
3. How long has the southwest been part of the USA?
4. How long have the states of AK/HI been part of the USA?

The reason for these questions is that in the long run, the borders & racial makeup representing the ideals of this country have been in a constant state of flux.

Why should the dawn of the 21st century be any different? Who decided that history must stop? Now, I'm not advocating relinquishing the SW to Mexico. Rather, I'm asking the question: why don't we annex Mexico?

Who would be the winners in such an exchange? We would. Mexico has over 10k miles of virgin coastline. If there were title, financing, insurance & property protections, there would be an explosion of migration southward the likes the world has never seen.

The problem with looking at only one side of the amnesty bill is that we're playing the patsies. It's time to exert our historical dominance.

1,402 posted on 05/18/2007 4:52:41 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: Chuck Dent

I have NO argument with your premise.

If so many Mexicans want to be Americans, we SHOULD annex Mexico.

Everyone would be better off.

As a matter of fact I suggested it a number of times on this forum and was shot down.

The Isthmus of Tehauntipec is a lot shorter than our current southern border and would be far easier to defend.

We have always been a melting pot of many different ethnic groups.

Our ability to survive and function in the successful way we have has been due to our ability to assimilate newcomers, and incorporate their skills.

I have no brief with Mexicans per se. They are, for the most part, decent people trying to better themselves.

But the key here is ASSIMILATION and the desire to be Americans.

What I most resent is the fact the current administration is seeking to reconstitute a form of economic peonage with a permanent underclass of expolited foreigners who will have no motivation or desire for assimliation. They loyalties will continue to be elsewhere.

Take over ALL of Mexico and the problem will be resolved. We will acquire new territory and resources and the Mexicans will get jobs and learn English.

But this is not what the Mexican government or this government and the expoliters of cheap foreign labor are pushing for here. The globalist corporate interests want a source of cheap FOREIGN labor they can exploit, and the Dems hope to be able to use this leverage for the Hispanic-American vote. The Mexican govnernment - dominated by a small coterie of modern day creoles wishes to maintain a permanent superclass of dominant Euro-Mexican elites and a permanent underclass of masses of exploited mixed race Mexicans. They view America as a safety valve for the failures of their administraion to emerge into the light of the 21st Century and a source of dollars to keep their economy running. Its a marriage made in hell.

Thanks for the compliment, but there are a lot of intelligent posters here although being fre-thinkers, frequently disagree on a number of issues, but not core conservative values.


1,403 posted on 05/18/2007 5:11:52 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Chuck Dent

The last person to propose the annexation of Mexico was Secretary of State James Buchanan. He said that he wanted the U.S. to “hold and civilize” Mexico, his exact words. Not too many took Buchanan up on his novel proposal, but others like Henry Cabot Lodge, I, later wanted to annex Canada.


1,405 posted on 05/18/2007 5:22:08 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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