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To: Chuck Dent

I have NO argument with your premise.

If so many Mexicans want to be Americans, we SHOULD annex Mexico.

Everyone would be better off.

As a matter of fact I suggested it a number of times on this forum and was shot down.

The Isthmus of Tehauntipec is a lot shorter than our current southern border and would be far easier to defend.

We have always been a melting pot of many different ethnic groups.

Our ability to survive and function in the successful way we have has been due to our ability to assimilate newcomers, and incorporate their skills.

I have no brief with Mexicans per se. They are, for the most part, decent people trying to better themselves.

But the key here is ASSIMILATION and the desire to be Americans.

What I most resent is the fact the current administration is seeking to reconstitute a form of economic peonage with a permanent underclass of expolited foreigners who will have no motivation or desire for assimliation. They loyalties will continue to be elsewhere.

Take over ALL of Mexico and the problem will be resolved. We will acquire new territory and resources and the Mexicans will get jobs and learn English.

But this is not what the Mexican government or this government and the expoliters of cheap foreign labor are pushing for here. The globalist corporate interests want a source of cheap FOREIGN labor they can exploit, and the Dems hope to be able to use this leverage for the Hispanic-American vote. The Mexican govnernment - dominated by a small coterie of modern day creoles wishes to maintain a permanent superclass of dominant Euro-Mexican elites and a permanent underclass of masses of exploited mixed race Mexicans. They view America as a safety valve for the failures of their administraion to emerge into the light of the 21st Century and a source of dollars to keep their economy running. Its a marriage made in hell.

Thanks for the compliment, but there are a lot of intelligent posters here although being fre-thinkers, frequently disagree on a number of issues, but not core conservative values.


1,403 posted on 05/18/2007 5:11:52 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Take over ALL of Mexico and the problem will be resolved. But this is not what the Mexican government or this government and the expoliters of cheap foreign labor are pushing for here.

At the end of the day, power is still controlled by the voting both. Who's to say that the battle cry of "Annex Mexico" doesn't become a future rallying point for conservatives & liberals alike?

Mexico is screwed up for one reason and one reason only: it doesn't follow the rule of law. Impose our judicial system, including due process & private property protections, and the resulting home building, financing, insurance, etc sectors would literally explode. This satisfies both labor & capital (ie Dems & Repubs).

Most of the bellyaching on this board is a poor reflection of the spirit that originally drove the creation of this country. It's all about 'what's happening to us' as opposed to 'let's roll'.

Every time I go down to Baja and have to sit in that ridiculus TJ border-crossing line, I get more & more irate. It would mean something if there was an actual difference once you crossed the 'line', but there ISN'T any!

It's all Anglo south and Hispanic north - if we're going to make the effort to formalize illegals, then we should reciprocate the favor.

1,406 posted on 05/18/2007 5:33:04 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: ZULU

While there is a certain attractiveness to the notion of annexing Mexico, because of the issues of language, corruption, drug trade, other crime, values, socialism, and the caste system in Mexico, it would be a disaster. The only way it could ever work would be to make Mexico a colony for 75 years, using the time to raise 2-3 generations speaking English and eradicating the existing corruption and the caste system - and keeping Mexicans out of the US until they have demonstrated an understanding of Anglo-Saxon institutions, the rule of law, and civic virtue.


1,413 posted on 05/18/2007 6:29:14 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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