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Deal struck on immigration bill (in the Senate, now over to the House for action)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:16:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan group of senators reached agreement with the White House Thursday on an immigration overhaul to grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border against new ones.

One of the key negotiators, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., said he expects President Bush to endorse it.

The deal came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.

It set the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.

This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican and Democratic senators huddled Thursday trying to close in on an immigration compromise to grant quick legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants while fortifying U.S. borders against new ones.

A group of lawmakers that has been haggling over the terms of agreement for weeks were reviewing language negotiated Wednesday night in efforts to nail down a deal. Among the final sticking points was a stubborn dispute over how much family ties count toward green cards under a new "point system." The plan prioritizes advanced skills and education levels for future immigrants.

Two of the lead negotiators, Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., booked time for Thursday afternoon in the Senate's radio-TV gallery for an announcement.

But Kennedy said some were hanging back as an agreement inched closer.

"There are just some people who don't want to close on this. There comes a time in every negotiation where people have to close," Kennedy said. "Today is it."

Kennedy said Thursday was likely the last chance for a compromise before senators scattered for a three-day weekend.

"The immigration reform legislation has come to a boiling point," Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said just before going into Thursday's meeting. "We've tried to come to a consensus and I think we are very, very close, but every time we grasp it, it eludes a final resolution."

If no deal emerged, Senate Democrats were to vote Monday evening to bring up an immigration measure that passed last year over the objections of most Republicans, who have said they will block it. That would be a highly partisan start to the immigration debate, which divides the two parties and exposes fissures within their ranks.

Even with a bipartisan agreement, the immigration debate could easily devolve into a free-for-all in the unruly Senate.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., has said he wants to complete a bill before Memorial Day, and President Bush says he wants to sign one by summer's end.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; buildthewall; bushamnesty; bushobl; cw11; cw2; deal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nau; struck; traitors
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To: jveritas

U.S. citizens should withold some or all of their tax payments to the federal government. If 20 million citizens refused to pay their taxes it would get the attention of our representatives faster even than rioting in the streets. The logic is inescapable that citizens have more right to scoff at U.S. laws than non-citizens.

We would be keeping more of our own money to improve the economic well-being of our families.

The only harm would be to shift the burden to those suckers that continue to pay their taxes.

There would be too many of us to prosecute.

We could threaten to not vote for any political party that threatened to prosecute us.

We could demand amnesty every few years.

We could threaten not to pay our State and local taxes if local authorities cooperate with the federal government.

This doesn’t address national security, but it’s a good start.


621 posted on 05/17/2007 1:18:03 PM PDT by de meanr
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To: Diogenesis

Its time for conservatives to leave the Republican party. Call the headquarters, and let them know they are toast!

Its time for the new party. We need to organize now. Perhaps just call it the Conservative party?


622 posted on 05/17/2007 1:18:27 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: snowrip

Another thing, previous immigrant groups didn’t have special interest groups telling them there was no reason to assimilate like now. La Raza is telling these people that parts of this country rightfully belong to them. It BS!!!!!!!


623 posted on 05/17/2007 1:18:43 PM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: panthermom

Sorry about that. I saw your comment earlier.

Let me Ping the Med Mod to the thread. :-)


624 posted on 05/17/2007 1:18:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... A nation bent on being consigned to the dustbin of history, we weep for thee.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is there a list out showing the votes yet?


625 posted on 05/17/2007 1:18:51 PM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Deport illegal aliens. Eisenhower did it. This can be done directly and indirectly. No welfare, no medical free care, no admission to school, no reduced college tuition, no jobs, no chance to file lawsuits for millions of dollars or anything else. Round up the gangs. Fine employers.

Illegal aliens are invading our country. The worst things to do is to surrender and whimper, "We should not do anything because there are too many."

626 posted on 05/17/2007 1:19:04 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: NormsRevenge

Is there a list out showing the votes yet?


627 posted on 05/17/2007 1:19:06 PM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: NeoCaveman
Wouldn't be the first time a Bush handed the White House to a Clinton.

BEARS REPEATING!

628 posted on 05/17/2007 1:19:33 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (If you're conservative, then support conservative candidates. Support Duncan Hunter for POTUS.)
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To: Zathras

Every Conservative needs to turn in their Republican membership. We need to start a Conservative party. The Republicans are now the old Democrats officially. I want out. They will never see a dollar of mine again.


629 posted on 05/17/2007 1:19:54 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: TChris; NormsRevenge; All

Sorry for the double-post. :-/


630 posted on 05/17/2007 1:19:58 PM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I just don't see what other options there were. Instead of everyone reaching for their double-barreled shotguns, it makes a lot more sense to embrace this largely hard-working, Christian, family-oriented underclass and make them Republicans. But, nah. Let's make them enemies instead.

As I understand it, the Latinos tend to gravitate to the Democrat Party by a 2:1 margin, IIRC. Say adios to Republican rule.

631 posted on 05/17/2007 1:20:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Sprite518

I agree with you. Our elected conservative leadership has abandoned us in the middle of the biggest issue we face. I think it is time we start fresh. I will never vote republican until we have new leadership.


632 posted on 05/17/2007 1:20:32 PM PDT by devane617 (Let's take back our country -- get a job in the MSM, or education system. We need you.)
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To: TChris

A BumP IS a Bump! :)


633 posted on 05/17/2007 1:20:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... A nation bent on being consigned to the dustbin of history, we weep for thee.)
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To: spectre
Today marks the countdown to the United States becoming a third world Nation.

Yep, I think so. I never thought I'd even consider such a thing, but in the spirit of "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade", I intend to make the best of it. Specifically, I'm gonna be a warlord!

634 posted on 05/17/2007 1:20:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Give them amnesty, if only to wipe the slate clean and implement an ironclad system that protects our borders and requires assimilation.

Wasn't that the intent of the '86 amnesty? And what makes you think this will be enforced any better than the last one?

635 posted on 05/17/2007 1:21:26 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: NormsRevenge
(in the Senate, now over to the House for action)

Where is will pass because we no longer controll the House

Have we learned our lesson yet?

636 posted on 05/17/2007 1:21:51 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: jveritas
Free Republic is doing just fine!...

This GREAT forum was started by Jim Robinson to allow like minded Americans and allies to speak and discuss and unite (if need be) against those who wish to invade or dismantle our Free Republic!

There is nothing wrong with passion...

....Passion enhanced by wisdom and fueled by patriotism is not wrong!

637 posted on 05/17/2007 1:21:53 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: RodgerD; Rutles4Ever
...it makes a lot more sense to embrace this largely hard-working, Christian, family-oriented underclass and make them Republicans.

Go to the below link to read "why" these immigrants wont be voting Republican in any significant way - ever. It is a good read, written by legal immigrant.

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834958/posts

638 posted on 05/17/2007 1:22:26 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: NormsRevenge

It is time for all tax paying CITIZENS to take a week of ‘sick days’. That may send the message the political whores in DC are not hearing. Why work hard? Why pay taxes? Heck send us ALL a check. If that is what the dems want, sign us ALL up and we will sit home too.


639 posted on 05/17/2007 1:23:34 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: truthkeeper; Reaganwuzthebest; TheRiverNile

I just called the RNC and told them if Jorge signs this bill, my 30 years of being and voting Republican is finished.

This is the end of my tolerance.


640 posted on 05/17/2007 1:23:37 PM PDT by angkor
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