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Deal struck on immigration bill (in the Senate, now over to the House for action)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/17/07 | Julie Hirschfeld Davis - ap

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:16:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan group of senators reached agreement with the White House Thursday on an immigration overhaul to grant quick legal status to millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S. and fortify the border against new ones.

One of the key negotiators, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., said he expects President Bush to endorse it.

The deal came after weeks of painstaking closed-door negotiations that brought the most liberal Democrats and the most conservative Republicans together with Bush's Cabinet officers to produce a highly complex measure that carries heavy political consequences.

It set the stage for what promises to be a bruising battle next week in the Senate on one of Bush's top non-war priorities.

This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican and Democratic senators huddled Thursday trying to close in on an immigration compromise to grant quick legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants while fortifying U.S. borders against new ones.

A group of lawmakers that has been haggling over the terms of agreement for weeks were reviewing language negotiated Wednesday night in efforts to nail down a deal. Among the final sticking points was a stubborn dispute over how much family ties count toward green cards under a new "point system." The plan prioritizes advanced skills and education levels for future immigrants.

Two of the lead negotiators, Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., booked time for Thursday afternoon in the Senate's radio-TV gallery for an announcement.

But Kennedy said some were hanging back as an agreement inched closer.

"There are just some people who don't want to close on this. There comes a time in every negotiation where people have to close," Kennedy said. "Today is it."

Kennedy said Thursday was likely the last chance for a compromise before senators scattered for a three-day weekend.

"The immigration reform legislation has come to a boiling point," Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., said just before going into Thursday's meeting. "We've tried to come to a consensus and I think we are very, very close, but every time we grasp it, it eludes a final resolution."

If no deal emerged, Senate Democrats were to vote Monday evening to bring up an immigration measure that passed last year over the objections of most Republicans, who have said they will block it. That would be a highly partisan start to the immigration debate, which divides the two parties and exposes fissures within their ranks.

Even with a bipartisan agreement, the immigration debate could easily devolve into a free-for-all in the unruly Senate.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., has said he wants to complete a bill before Memorial Day, and President Bush says he wants to sign one by summer's end.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; buildthewall; bushamnesty; bushobl; cw11; cw2; deal; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nau; struck; traitors
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To: 50mm
Ike had the same problem, not as bad, but the same problem.... he went and fixed it!

Read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

An excerpt:

The operation began in California and Arizona and coordinated 1,075 Border Patrol agents along with state and local police agencies to mount an aggressive crackdown, going as far as police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people in a region with many Native Americans and native Hispanics. Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Around 488,000 people fled the country for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimates that 500,000-700,000 illegals had left Texas voluntarily. To discourage re-entry, buses and trains took many illegals deep within Mexico before being set free. Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) south.

Result

Operation Wetback deported approximately 80,000 Mexican nationals in the space of almost a year, although local INS officials claimed that an additional 500,000-700,000 had fled to Mexico before the campaign began. The INS estimates rested on the claim that most undocumented people, fearing apprehension by the government, had voluntarily repatriated themselves before and during the operation.

1,381 posted on 05/17/2007 10:34:28 PM PDT by nyrenegade
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To: Prokopton

I am not a “Bush bot”, but I do happen to agree with President Bush that amnesty is better for the country than civil war.


1,382 posted on 05/17/2007 10:37:54 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (He who stands against Israel stands against God. - Rev. Jerry Falwell)
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To: TUAN_JIM

Instead of personally insulting me and droning on and on about the amnesty bill, you could turn your attention to something more important like this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835493/posts


1,383 posted on 05/17/2007 10:42:39 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (He who stands against Israel stands against God. - Rev. Jerry Falwell)
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To: sand88
GLAD you brought that up about the Cuban-Americans in Florida. Do you realize that even with the massive fallout from the Elian Gonzales fiasco in 2000, Bush only won the Cuban American vote in Florida by 2 to 3 percentage points...?? That should tell you something.
1,384 posted on 05/17/2007 10:43:00 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: B. Chezwick
I am not a “Bush bot”, but I do happen to agree with President Bush that amnesty is better for the country than civil war.

You think the illegal aliens will start a civil war between the legal citizens? If so, that's an urgent reason to get rid of them, pronto.

Or did you mean the illegal invaders would start a war with the legal citizens? If thats true, we should fight them now before they get any stronger.

I'm not sure, just what did you mean?

1,385 posted on 05/17/2007 10:48:48 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

I meant that attempted deportation would cause a civil war between American guest workers and their supporters on one side and those attempting to expel them from their homes on the other.


1,386 posted on 05/17/2007 10:55:38 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (He who stands against Israel stands against God. - Rev. Jerry Falwell)
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To: B. Chezwick
No matter what they do,just like the black vote,the Hispanic people will vote Democrat.
1,387 posted on 05/17/2007 11:12:57 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: B. Chezwick
I meant that attempted deportation would cause a civil war between American guest workers and their supporters on one side and those attempting to expel them from their homes on the other.

If the illegal invaders (I assume when you say "guest workers" you're referring to the illegal invaders)would resort to violence if this Country attempted to enforce it's own laws, I would be more than willing to take up arms against them. They would have proven the fact that they are not fit to live in a country where the rule of law prevails. They can go back to their own country where the form of government is corruption. Remember, conservatives strongly support the Second Amendment because we have most of the guns.

1,388 posted on 05/17/2007 11:20:37 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: patriciamary

That is a defeatist and, quite frankly, racist statement.


1,389 posted on 05/17/2007 11:32:58 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (He who stands against Israel stands against God. - Rev. Jerry Falwell)
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To: SheLion

Interestingly, I haven’t seen the Bush-Bots who used to flame my ass anywhere near this thread. They must be on vacation.


1,390 posted on 05/17/2007 11:38:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: B. Chezwick; patriciamary
That is a defeatist and, quite frankly, racist statement.

You are certainly not a conservative but you come on a conservative forum and call people racist just like liberals do.

Are you, perchance, a troll?

1,391 posted on 05/17/2007 11:40:18 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: bray
Well said, but our voices are meaningless in the endless screaming about this issue. While I am nauseated by this bill, those opposing it don't seem to have any realistic, workable solutions. The round-'em-all-up concept is simply not going to happen, ever. (You might as well say "Just round up all the criminals"--it's about as realistic.)

The "send-a-messagers" brought us to this point, and frankly, their screaming about how they aren't responsible for the choice they made on last election day is hilarious, as we're supposed to be the ones who want to hold people responsible for their own actions. Hypocrites.

The idea that there is one party or one candidate who is perfect is a myth, and those who only vote for myths are not intelligent people. I have no use for such, and they have no answers for a workable solution, none.

1,392 posted on 05/17/2007 11:43:30 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: Prokopton

As much as it may shock you, one’s opinions on immigration are not what defines them as a conservative.


1,393 posted on 05/17/2007 11:48:15 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (He who stands against Israel stands against God. - Rev. Jerry Falwell)
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To: oldbill
I feel sorry for you younger types, but I see the light.

Thank you for the compliment...I'm sure my grandchildren would agree with you!

I think it will be best for me to support Democrats and their policies and to get everything I can and more. I want to live out my days in comfort on your dime. Why worry about a third world America that will follow my passing. Let the Bush girls worry about that.

I think you are being facetious, but in case you are serious; I don't plan on you living in comfort on my dime! No. 1 reason...I'm probably older than you, but more importantly, I hope to leave this world a better place for my grandchildren to live in. That means I have got to stand up for what is right, and it sure as heck isn't the Democrat philosophy! This former Bush woman plans on letting him know he's betrayed my trust, and he can't depend on another cent from me. I've supported him even when I haven't agreed with his positions because I thought it was important to have a united front while our military was fighting a war on foreign soil. However, I think Bush has failed to protect our borders, and he has 'given in' to Democrats too often in his effort to act in a conciliatory manner. All his yielding to them (Democrats) has brought him nothing but contempt, and he will end up with his legacy being the President that destroyed the Republican Party! But I intend to try to stop this madness by letting Congress know they can and will be replaced!

1,394 posted on 05/18/2007 12:48:30 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: oldbill

Yep, the war in Iraq is costing blood and treasure...for what ??...the new North American Union ??... the Constitution and the Oath of Office means nothing to the Ruling Class as this is pure TREASON...Bush is truly morphing into a complete pathetic joke...the Heritage Foundation says this Amnesty will cost the U.S. taxpayers 2.2 TRILLION dollars...


1,395 posted on 05/18/2007 1:00:41 AM PDT by lawdog
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To: Theodore R.

Then we may have to look elsewhere if the House approves this piece of treason.


1,396 posted on 05/18/2007 3:02:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

There is no way anyone could seperate me from my children. I would TAKE MY KIDS WITH ME!!! This is one of the most tiresome arguments out there. What? Because their kids were born here we own them? Give me a break. How sad that these people use their children as a reason to stay here in spite of breaking the law. How many got pregnant and had a kid immediately upon arriving here just for that reason?


1,397 posted on 05/18/2007 3:30:02 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: jragan2001

I live in Gwinnett as well. It used to feel like Mayberry where I live but now the illegals are spreading towards us like a wildfire. They had to take the youth sports programs out of Lucky Shoals park because of the gangs, Norcross forget about it, it’s gone. We have to make sure John Linder does not go along with this even though so two LIARS ISAKSON AND CHAMBLISS DID. Linders home town of Duluth, which up until recently was one of the better places in Gwinnett to live is now quickly becoming a $hithole. People I know who live there said they can’t get out of there fast enough. I absolutely love Georgia, I hate what is happening here. We are looking to move east to Walton or Oconee County but it will be a real hardship workwise.


1,398 posted on 05/18/2007 3:49:57 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: Prokopton
This is the United States. Were the guys that went to the moon. We understand difficult but we don't believe in impossible.

Great quote!

1,399 posted on 05/18/2007 4:04:53 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: dragnet2

I have 3 children, I would have loved to have 5 but guess what? I could not afford to have 5 because I am responsible for them. Nobody pays for me and my family. I know alot of people think abortion is what is shrinking the American family but I think alot of middle class families that pay their own way have smaller families because thats all they can afford. We do have a standard of living and don’t live on handouts.


1,400 posted on 05/18/2007 4:12:34 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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