I am freakin’ fed up with the absolute misrepresentation of what Dr. Paul said.
Those who say he said we deserved 9/11 are liars or stupid.
Those who say he said we deserved 9/11 are liars or stupid.
You could hear quite a few 'baaaahs' when the mob cheered Guiliani's so-called 'smackdown' of Paul (which really had no substance to it).
There is a huge difference between someone how disagrees for the war on constitutional principles and someone (a typical liberal kook) who disagrees with the war on pacifist and other irrational grounds.
A liberal is 'patriotic' in the sense that they want to mold and re-make America into a socialist, communist dystopia. That's truly unpatriotic, against the spirit of the country.
Ron Paul is patriotic in the sense of seeking to restore America to it's constitutional roots, to actually follow the Constitution. That's patriotic, and that's respectable.
Of all places for him to be jeered at like some kind of lunatic. Talk about shouting a good man down. Extremely sad.
Ironically, a more Constitutional government would diminish the ridiculous amount of democratic power the masses have - the power they're using to wreck the country.
I support the Iraq war, but I respect Ron Paul and his position because I know he's basing his disagreement on Constitutional principals.
He's not out there to win the presidency, he's out there to educate and expose people to constitutional principles. Something everybody here should respect.
He strongly implied that we brought it on ourselves, and he cited Bin Ladin’s Fatwa as his support for that assertion...as if we should look to Bin Ladin’s words as the truthful and intellectually honest resource with which to assess the sitution, rather than taking Bin Ladin's statement for the propaganda it is.
Were this WWII, Ron Paul would be telling us to listen to Tokyo Rose so we could understand why the Japanese hate us, and how we created the situation that caused the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor.
Fixed it for ya. ;)
This is true...
But Michelle is still cuter than a button though...
Flyer liked her...So what he thinks was good in my book!
Right???
Would stupid liars suffice? Blackbird.
I agree. Still there are those who deny OBL's own admission as the "reason" being that he planned the attacks upon the US. That reason was Iraq, as documented in OBL's 1998 PBS interview - whether or not we deem it justified, OBL gave Iraq as a motivator. He even stated then terrorists were already in the US planning attacks, but Giuliani says he's never heard any of that before. It tells me Giuliani isn't quite the war on terror expert he supposes he is, or Giuliani simply lied to grandstand.
From what I've been abled to piece together, from the 1998 PBS OBL interview and the statements made specifically putting US presence in Iraq as a motivator to attack the US, from the return of the Saudi prince's check and the reason behind Giuliani's rejection being the prince linked the US presence in the ME to the attacks, from Giuliani's assertion he's the "best qualified" to lead the WOT because of his understanding the terrorists, if the latter being true I'd say Giuliani lied.
And I'm no Ron Paul fan, but it disgusts me to see Giuliani's cold exploitation of the 9/11 attacks for his own political ambitions and his manipulation of the truth for his own interest.
He didn’t say that we deserved 9/11, but more that we indirectly caused 9/11—”blowback,” right? That statement can be easily misinterpreted/spun into “we deserved it.”
I don’t agree with the guy, and think his foreign policy is unsound (and disagree 100% with him on the alleged causes for Islamic terror against us), but no, he didn’t say we deserved it.
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“I am freakin fed up with the absolute misrepresentation of what Dr. Paul said.
Those who say he said we deserved 9/11 are liars or stupid.”
Yet, his words are very clear to everybody but himself, and his supporters....
Indeed. In this video, Paul explains expressly that, of course, the American people are not to blame for 911, but even the 911 commission suggests the policies of the US Government arouse the anger of foreigners, even the CIA agrees. All that Ron is saying, is if American policy is detrimental and creates blowback, maybe we should think of changing the policy. It is too bad he has to condescend to explain that to the demagogues, supporters of current policy, who cynically accuse him of blaming America, but politics is like that.
The part about asking Rudy to apologize after he reads the 911 report and sees Paul is right, its obvious he's joking but I expect the Paul haters to take it seriously and criticize him for that too.