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To: Star Traveler

It sounds like you’ve already surrendered. Fortunately, you are still in the minority.


15 posted on 05/15/2007 3:34:53 AM PDT by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: deaconjim
"deaconjim" said --

It sounds like you’ve already surrendered. Fortunately, you are still in the minority.

Stating the facts of the matter is the first step to knowing either what to do or what is going to happen. It's just like I heard in the last Congressional elections — which everyone is bemoaning now, on Free Republic — in which it was said the polls are wrong, Rove has a plan, the Democrats are always lying about that kind of stuff, the public knows better than that, etc., etc., and etc. And now look at the Congress. It switched and we've got all this stuff going on about pull-out (thanks to that switch).

And once again, it's the same story all over again, the polls are wrong, we're in the majority, the polls are wrong [always repeated for emphasis, you see], the public knows better than this, etc., etc., and etc. Here we go once again, on the roller coaster ride to FReeper oblivion, when people believe that their preferences and desires are truth — rather than the "facts on the ground" (which is the actual truth).

The truth of the matter, is independent of your desires or your wishes. The truth of the matter doesn't go, necessarily with the wisest course of action. The truth of the matter is not always in your favor. The truth of the matter is what is shaping what is coming — in terms of a troop withdrawal.

Thus, it will simply be like last time in which a lot of FReepers are bemoaning that the truth of the matter did not accord with their wishes and desires. And the proof of the matter will be in the coming Presidential elections, plus the nature of the legislation that comes out before the elections — like the lack of funding that Congress has the right to do, in regards to the troops, which will then force a curtailment of troop activities (because of the lack of adequate supplies and materials) and then the beginnings of troop withdrawals, which will probably be stated as the removal of the "surge" and then go full speed into the removal of the rest of the troops.

That's what is coming down the pike, to anyone who is looking at the facts on the ground, as opposed to wishful thinking.

Regards,
Star Traveler

25 posted on 05/15/2007 10:33:12 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: debbieargel; bnelson44; Eagles6; tgslTakoma; advance_copy; freema; deaconjim; RedRover; ...
"deaconjim" said --

It sounds like you’ve already surrendered. Fortunately, you are still in the minority.

Well, I know it's still hard for some people to separate out the idea of "support our troops" from the real-life political developments here in the States, but that's just the facts of the matter. We'll support our troops even when they are withdrawing from Iraq -- and withdrawing too soon, so that it will end up being a disaster for the U.S. policy over there.

The fact of the matter is that I'm not in the minority for recognizing that such a thing is coming down the pike. It surely is. And the quicker people get a hold of that idea of what is happening, the better it will be for them.

Surrender may not be an option -- but the fact of the matter is that it might not be your choice to make. And that's the big problem here...

Take a look at a post from Jim Robinson, below [item number 1 is corrected per Jim...]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1835379/posts?


The question after the election disaster of 2008 will be, which betrayal did in the GOP?

May 17, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/17/2007 3:07:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

1. The war [Failure to win the war of public opinion].
2. Failure to secure the borders.
3. Amnesty.
4. McCain-Feingold.
5. Big government.
6. Big spending.
7. Abortion.
8. Gay marriage/gay agenda.
9. Gun control.
10. Failure to protect private property.
11. Failure to abide by the constitution.
12. Failure to enforce the law.
13. Corruption.
14. Too many RINOs.
15. Lack of spine.
16. Loss of testicles.
17. Failure to run conservative candidates.
18. Most of the above.
19. All of the above.
20. Other.

Regards,
Star Traveler

65 posted on 05/17/2007 11:44:21 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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