Wow, normally liberals plow ahead and just refuse to abandon their proposals no matter the tax increase.
The idea that what happens on the state level will be repeated on the national level is, I think, misplaced.
The Dems know that this plan won’t work on just the state level, and they therefore won’t support it on the state level, but that doesn’t mean they won’t support it on the national level.
Their reasoning for why it won’t work on the state level, but it does work on the national level, goes thus: If you adopt it on the state level, the higher taxes will just make those who can afford healthcare move to other states, leaving only those who can’t afford it to pay the higher taxes. If you adopt it on the national level, then they’ve got nowhere to run.
In other words, this program is so bad, that the only way you can even get it passed is to force every state to have the bad policy so that none of them are at a competitive disadvantage vis-a-vis each other. Of course, the big problem is that it will put the whole nation at a competitive disadvantage.
” “These corporate guys, they can’t avoid this tax,” “
The nasty little secret that NO politician hopes we figure out —
Corporations don’t *pay* taxes — they *collect* taxes from (you guessed it by now, didn’t ya?) thee ‘n me..
Where do they think businesses would get funds to pay for these increase taxes? Notice, with all DBM/dem ideas the little guy, the poor consumer always ends up paying!
Same as Mitt’s plan in MA?
With “free” health care nearly every mother will haul little Johnny into the emergency room for every scratch and run-in with poison ivy.
Then after bigger corporate taxes can’t pay to treat a million little Johnnys, small businesses will get hit for more taxes, followed by bigger income taxes, taxes on pop, burgers, cigarettes and SUVs and then property taxes will double or triple to pay for little Johnny.
And to think that assorted quacks engaged in medical fraud is bad now, wait until health care is “free” and nobody checks their medical bills for unecessary tests, unbundling and other tricks. Some of these hospitals should fly the Jolly Rogers flag from the doorway and have parrots on staff.
Yep - I sent all the reps and state senators in my area a bunch of nastygrams about this legislation - not just my own for the area in which I reside, but also those surrounding districts. And then I blasted off a scathing letter to the Governor’s office telling him I would take my business out of the State of Illinois if this legislation got passed.
As for national Democrats, Presidential candidate John Edwards has already proposed a huge tax increase to pay for national health care. At least he's honest about what such promises require, but we doubt it will help his Presidential prospects. Illinois Senator Barack Obama has been silent on his Governor's tax implosion, but someone should get him on the record. And Hillary Clinton, well, we can't wait to see how "universal" her promises will be.
To liberals, the purpose of taxes is not to collect revenue, but to redistribute income. Under such schemes, income is not redistributed to the needy per se, but rather to members of the coalition of political supporters. There is never the intent of helping people in the sense that non-politicians think of “people”, i.e. individuals and families.
The illusion of popular support must be managed carefully- the coalition member groups mobilize under a variety of banners that conjure mental images of ordinary citizens speaking out. But the connections between all the groups shouldn’t be too blatant- it must be a “united front” rather than a “popular front”. Popular support is a convenient cover for running a legal racket enforced by th epolice power of the state. When popular support erodes, the motivations behind the taxation scheme become apparent.
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And education??? Huh?
Education gets so much money that it looks like overfed duck getting ready to harvest its liver for Foie gras.