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Ground Zero Illnesses Clouding Giuliani’s Legacy
The New York Times ^
| May 14, 2007
| ANTHONY DePALMA
Posted on 05/13/2007 7:09:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I’m not a Giuliani supporter by any means, but this tripe article does him a grave injustice.
Like several previous posters said: the PIAPS has her cloven hoofprints all over this article.....
And no doubt many more like it against anyone (on either side) who gets in her way.
That, or get ‘Fosterized’.
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posted on
05/13/2007 8:34:53 PM PDT
by
LegendHasIt
(((((Did I just say that out loud???)))))))
To: Doc91678
They are always on the attack, so no one will remember Bill Clinton's negligence during his Presidency (and Hillary's co-presidency)...it was 8 years between the first WTC attack and 9/11. Bill had chances to take possession of Osama Bin Laden, or to kill him, and never took action. His tough talk but lack of meaningful response after each terrorist attack just emboldened Osama & Co.
Sandy Berger had to destroy documents to protect Clinton.
The media may not be fully in Hillary's corner yet--as long as a Democrat wins, they would be happy with any leftwinger--but after she defeats her rivals, they'll be doing their best to protect her. Blaming Giuliani helps deflect attention from the Clintons.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
As far as I can tell, the NYT, both Clintons and all their minions have no conscience at all. I really do wonder how any of them can sleep at night.
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posted on
05/13/2007 8:49:09 PM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
(I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
To: Reverend Bob
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:04:50 PM PDT
by
Valin
(History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
To: Williams
I don’t give a DAMN about Michael Moore. The slimes continues again and again and again to prove that it’s pages are barely worthy of wrapping fish or lining a bird cage.
What’s frightening is that faithful subscribers to this rag actually view it as some kind of gospel.
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:05:16 PM PDT
by
Just Lori
(There is nothing "democratic" about Democrats.)
To: Verginius Rufus
“Eliminate all the serious candidates and she wins by default.”
Rudy is a liberal (democrat) candidate who’s purpose is to insure a Hillary win...
The good news is that he won’t be the republican candidate.
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:28:37 PM PDT
by
babygene
(Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
To: BurtSB
“Another Clinton INC hit piece faxed to the NYT for the weekly dose of destroy Rudy”
If they destroy Rudy, they will be doing us all a favor...
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:30:15 PM PDT
by
babygene
(Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
To: digger48
"If they’d followed the Liberal guidelines for safety, there’d still be a pile of debris in an evacuated city with a 25 mile buffer zone". Well, you sure couldn't have dropped the bomb in Hiroshima, too much fallout. We'd have to sit by and lose the war if Hillary was in charge, or any other lib.
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:33:03 PM PDT
by
Beowulf9
To: originalbuckeye
Re read what you wrote. You will notice that you answered your question right before you posed it.
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:46:51 PM PDT
by
Nik Naym
To: 2ndDivisionVet
As I recall, when Giuliani announced he was cutting back the hours rescuers could put in at the site, quite a few of them protested that move.
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posted on
05/13/2007 9:48:50 PM PDT
by
psjones
(u)
To: Nik Naym
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posted on
05/13/2007 10:10:10 PM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
(I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
05/13/2007 11:22:51 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
One Army Corps official said Mr. Giuliani acted like a benevolent dictator. Despite the presence of those federal experts, Mr. Giuliani assigned the ground zero cleanup to a largely unknown city agency, the Department of Design and Construction. Kenneth Holden, the departments commissioner until January 2004, said in a deposition in the federal lawsuit against the city that he initially expected FEMA or the Army Corps to try to take over the cleanup operation. Mr. Giuliani never let them.
Rudy a benevolent dictator, isn't that special. Exactly what we need - NOT. Then, in typical Rooty fashion he puts a crony in charge.
Go away Rooty, just go away.
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posted on
05/14/2007 4:35:42 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
To: Williams
I am taking some paralegal courses at the local community college. The husband of one of my instructors is one of the lawyers defending the city in these lawsuits. He came to speak a couple of weeks ago and was talking about the respirator issue.
There were plenty of respirators for the workers. Some chose not to wear them for various reasons. A lot of the class were of the opinion that there was no real way to force them to. In addition, a lot of these guys were, in a sense, volunteers, so there wasn't a lot of leverage that could be used. It was also a kind of emergency situation, where the possibility of survivors being found existed, so time was of the essence.
This whole lawsuit is a no win for either side.
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posted on
05/14/2007 4:52:31 AM PDT
by
CaptRon
(Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Federal authorities warned him about the toxic threat to humans in the first week after 9/11.
He ignored it until after the gold for that bank was recovered. Then he was suddenly concerned about exposure risks.
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posted on
05/14/2007 5:05:24 AM PDT
by
George W. Bush
(Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
To: Reagan Man
I’m not agreeing there. We need to beat Hillary and Rudy may be the best bet we’ve got.
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posted on
05/14/2007 5:53:11 AM PDT
by
amutr22
To: babygene
I think you're right that Giuliani won't be nominated for various reasons. His inability to articulate his position on abortion is symptomatic. (
The Wall Street Journal last Friday had an editorial on why pro-life people should support him anyway for pragmatic reasons.)
Giuliani would be strong on the war on terror and questionable on judges (he says he would appoint the right kind, but would he follow through?)...whereas any of the Democrats in the race would be weak on the war on terror and aggressively hostile to conservative values when it came to judges or legislation. If it's Giuliani vs. any of the Democrats, I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him, but it's not going to come to that.
To: Ditter
Being surprised or not surprised of the incidents of illness has no bearing on the fact that the causes are directly attributable to the attack.
Someone had to clean it up. I don’t think anyone was aware of the after effects of the attack.
What these conspiracy theorists have forgotten to mention is that there were four planes involved. One hit the Pentagon, the other was headed to the White House. Thankfully there were patriots within Flt 93 that interfered with that plan. They weren’t liberals that is for sure.
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posted on
05/14/2007 10:24:12 AM PDT
by
Doc91678
(Doc91678)
To: babygene
you will be real happy when the DNC queen becomes Pres and shuts down this website and talk radio are her first act !
keep up the Clinton's good work by trashing the rnc candidates.
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posted on
05/18/2007 5:31:37 AM PDT
by
BurtSB
(the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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