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Bush to pressure Senate to revive U.N. sea treaty
Worldnetdaily ^ | May 13, 2007 | WND

Posted on 05/13/2007 5:15:39 AM PDT by driftdiver

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To: driftdiver
I left Bush a long time ago. I was always warring verbally with the legendary “Bushbots,” who turned into “Rudybots” and left or got banned.

Aside from his judges, W has been a dismal president. People will remember him for the Iraq war, high gas prices, and spending his last years on abominations like this.

61 posted on 05/13/2007 10:50:55 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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To: Ranger Drew
Perhaps tar and feathers are in order at last for all those who would sell out our nation to the new world order.

Tar and feathers are too good for those sellouts.

62 posted on 05/13/2007 10:52:45 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: TheBattman
“The WOT is looking more and more like a cover for the Bush family’s push for One World Government. I’m not discounting the need for a WOT, but not as a Wag The Dog tactic to cover ulterior motives...”

Excellent. I cringe everytime I hear this homeland security crap that translates to shaking me and my family down in airports. They never miss a beat on harassing American citizens, but boy, the Fort Dix conspiracy got dropped in a hurry, and was barely mentioned by the media megaphone.

Bush is a PC robot like the rest of the NWO thugs. I drew some gasps here a few months ago when I said “I despise the man. I loathe the man.” He has been the biggest disappointment of my life as a Republican president. I don’t like betrayers and I don’t suffer them easily.

Bush can’t be trusted. When he goes, good riddance.

63 posted on 05/13/2007 10:58:24 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way. No Mitt . No way. No McCain. No way.)
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To: AuntB

64 posted on 05/13/2007 11:01:51 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: jveritas

CONDI IS LOST AT SEA

http://www.conservativeusa.org/bushwatch.htm

“During her confirmation hearings, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked a question that got lost in the Barbara Boxer brouhaha: Did the administration favor the ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty, or LOST?

“Rice said the administration ‘would certainly like to see it pass as soon as possible.’ Assuming she was authorized to say that by President Bush … the question is why?”

REAGAN SAID NO TO UNLOST, BUT GWB IS PUSHING IT

“LOST was a bad idea when President Reagan refused to sign it in 1982 and actually fired the State Department staff members who helped negotiate it. It was drafted at the behest of Soviet bloc and Third World dictators interested in a scheme to weaken U.S. power while transferring wealth to the developing world.”


65 posted on 05/13/2007 11:04:11 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: jveritas

“Because WND have lied so many times before regarding all these issues about Bush”

Yes, however there is no doubt he did support this. The question is regarding he is trying to bring it back up.


66 posted on 05/13/2007 11:04:16 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: jveritas
Because WND have lied so many times before regarding all these issues about Bush “selling” the US to the UN or Mexico.

Really? Enlighten us, jv, show us where they lied.

67 posted on 05/13/2007 11:05:43 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
AuntB

The article is talking about the older version of the UN sea law treaty that was refused by President Reagan. The treaty was changed in the 1990's to address US concern so there is no "selling of US sovereignty" and President Bush will never sell US sovereignty to any nation or nations. Enough with the kooky conspiracy theories that harm the reputation of this very respected forum.

68 posted on 05/13/2007 11:16:30 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: driftdiver
I am absoutely disgusted by the attitudes in this thread.

Every single one of us trusts our CINC with the defense of our nation and the lives of our young men and women all over the world....

...but apparently he pushes a single treaty that we might disagree with and suddenly all you hear is "IMPEACH THE B@STARD!". It's starting to sound like DU in here.

We have to trust our CINC that he has our best interests at heart. If he really thinks we need this treaty, then we need it. None of us can sit in judgement of this man.
69 posted on 05/13/2007 11:16:39 AM PDT by LightBeam (Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
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To: driftdiver; Calpernia; All

The man in congress leading the battle to stop this is Sen. Jim Inhofe (HE is SUCH a good man!)

Law of the Sea Treaty Battle Surfaces in the Senate

WASHINGTON, DC, March 24, 2004 (ENS) - President George W. Bush and his administration are in support of Senate ratification for the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, a top State Department official told a Congressional hearing on Tuesday.

Turner
John Turner is U.S. assistant secretary of state for oceans policy. (Photo courtesy State Department)
John Turner, assistant secretary of state for oceans policy, reaffirmed the administration’s support for the treaty in testimony Tuesday before the Senate Environment Committee.

Senator James Inhofe, Republican chairman of the Senate Environment Committee and a critic of the treaty, cited published newspaper accounts reporting that the Bush administration was retreating from its effort to win Senate endorsement for the treaty under pressure from conservatives who believe it gives the United Nations too much power.

Turner rebutted those reports. “I wouldn’t be here testifying before you if there was any retreat or change of position of the administration,” Turner said. He expressed the “full support” of President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell and key national security agencies, he said.


70 posted on 05/13/2007 11:16:49 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: LightBeam
Every single one of us trusts our CINC with the defense of our nation and the lives of our young men and women all over the world....

I don't trust him.

71 posted on 05/13/2007 11:24:00 AM PDT by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: jveritas

blah, blah, show us where WND lied. You need to have some back up around here when you call someone a liar.

More of LOST

Elisabeth Mann Borgese, a world government activist, was described as the “Mother of the Oceans” or “First Lady of the Oceans” for her role in crafting and promoting LOST.5 She not only stated her admiration for Karl Marx, the father of communism, but was an ardent advocate of the New International Economic Order.

Ironically, Borgese agreed with Kirkpatrick about LOST being critical to the NIEO. In The Oceanic Circle, still available from the liberal Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., Borgese wrote about how she and Arvid Pardo wrote a chapter for Reshaping the International Order: A Report to the Club of Rome,
Socialist Elisabeth Mann Borgese: Mother of the Law of the Sea Treaty
compiled under the direction of Jan Tinbergen. The Borgese-Pardo chapter was entitled, “The New International Economic Order and the Law of the Sea,” and “tried to indicate how the emerging law of the Sea Convention could reinforce the goals of the developing countries in a new international economic order.”7

Borgese identified several “major issues” on which LOST and the NIEO “could reinforce each other.” These included:

o Probably the “most important [concept] of all” - LOST’s recognition of the oceans being the “Common Heritage of Mankind,” thereby placing poor countries on an “equal” relationship with advanced countries and “a right to share in the resources that had been declared to be the Common Heritage of Mankind.”
o Creation of Exclusive Economic Zones, giving coastal states control “over all resources and economic uses in a 200-mile zone.”
o Establishment of the International Seabed Authority, giving developing countries a role in “financial decision-making” on a global level.

Yet many Senate Republicans, led by Richard Lugar (Ind.), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, support LOST.

Senate Democrats, including all Democratic members of the Foreign Relations Committee, support it as well. George Soros, who spent $23 million in an effort to defeat President Bush’s re-election, has made financial contributions to six of eight Democratic members of the Foreign Relations Committee - Barak Obama, Barbara Boxer, Bill Nelson, Joe Biden, Paul Sarbanes, and John Kerry. A political action committee associated with the pro-world government Citizens for Global Solutions, formerly known as the World Federalist Association, contributed financially to Foreign Relations Committee members Senators Richard Lugar and Democrats Barbara Boxer, Christopher Dodd, Russell Feingold and Barack Obama.

Soros recently participated in a meeting of “70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires” to plan a return to power in the White House and Congress of the liberal-left and the Democratic Party.8

Symbol of International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea

Academic and legal supporters of LOST, such as John Norton Moore of the University of Virginia School of Law, frequently cite U.S. corporate support for the treaty but don’t try to refute the fact that members of the World Federalist Movement are strongly behind it because they had a major role in writing it.11

For example, Louis Sohn, professor Emeritus of International Law at Harvard University, was a U.S. delegate to the Law of the Sea Conference and helped write the draft of the treaty. Sohn’s material has been published in Uniting the Peoples and Nations. Readings in World Federalism. He and Grenville Clark wrote World Peace Through World Law, which called for the elimination of “all national armaments,” creation of a World Police Force, and a United Nations Revenue System.12

For her part, Borgese didn’t buy U.S. military arguments that LOST guarantees freedom of navigation on the high seas. In fact, her position was that “the doctrine of the freedom of the seas has been replaced by that of the common heritage of mankind” in the treaty.13 Stated another way, the concept of “High Seas Freedom,”14 she said, has been superseded by LOST, which regulates access to the oceans in “the area beyond national jurisdiction.”

In a January 1999 speech, Borgese declared, “The world ocean has been, and is, so to speak, our great laboratory for the making of a new world order. For a combination of reasons it was in the oceans, and only there, that we could introduce a series of new concepts, principles and norms which eventually will have to be applied to the world as a whole.” (emphasis added).15

http://www.usasurvival.org/ck42705.shtml


72 posted on 05/13/2007 11:24:27 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: LightBeam
We have to trust our CINC that he has our best interests at heart. If he really thinks we need this treaty, then we need it. None of us can sit in judgement of this man.

Hey, I gave him the benefit of the doubt until I couldn't! And BS, every time I vote I sit in judgement. So do you.

73 posted on 05/13/2007 11:27:18 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: carenot
I don't trust him.

Then theres a nice cozy spot at DU just for you.
74 posted on 05/13/2007 11:49:25 AM PDT by LightBeam (Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
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To: AuntB
Hey, I gave him the benefit of the doubt until I couldn't! And BS, every time I vote I sit in judgement. So do you.

So if the election were held again today between John F'in Kerry and our CINC you would vote for Kerry, third party or stay home?

You're going to sacrifice our nation's security because you disagree with some of GWB's policies? You're going to sit in judgement of a man who has had to make decisions that even the strongest men would wilt under? A man who has suffered relentless attacks from a treasonous fifth column for the past seven years?

Oh, feel free to sit in righteous judgement. He's just keeping Western Civilization alive, thats all. Shoot, theres no difference between him and Hitlery after all.
75 posted on 05/13/2007 11:54:59 AM PDT by LightBeam (Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
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To: AuntB

President Bush will not sign any treaty that in any shape or form will infringe on US sovereignty, anyone who says otherwise is lying, period.


76 posted on 05/13/2007 11:57:19 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: LightBeam
You're going to sacrifice our nation's security because you disagree with some of GWB's policies?

You give me way too much credit, GWB is the only one that has the power to do that. And not that it's any of your business, but yeah, last time I vote AGAINST Kerry, not for Bush. We're all pretty sick of the 'lesser' of 2 evils. Let me guess...Rudy supporter?

77 posted on 05/13/2007 12:02:26 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: jveritas
President Bush will not sign any treaty that in any shape or form will infringe on US sovereignty, anyone who says otherwise is lying, period.

We'll see, won't we? I remember some people swearing he'd never promote amnesty either.........don't waste your time telling me it isn't amnesty.

78 posted on 05/13/2007 12:04:13 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
Let me guess...Rudy supporter?

If you check my posting history, you'll see that I'm quite the opposite of a Rudy supporter. why? because he's not a conservative.

But hey, I guess we conservatives don't have to support our CINC during War. No, we can go ahead a stab our CINC in the back even better than the 'rats can. Heck, we don't even need a 'rat party for 5th column duty anymore. We can do it all by ourselves.
79 posted on 05/13/2007 12:09:12 PM PDT by LightBeam (Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
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To: AuntB
LOST has long been the crown-jewel of a community known as the transnational progressives (”transies”) found in various quarters of this and foreign governments, international bureaucrats and non-governmental organizations. The transies seek to have supranational institutions govern world affairs, circumscribing the freedom of action and undermining the sovereignty of the American people and those of other freedom-loving nations.

We read about this in the 80s. At the time I thought it was just conspiracy stuff. How wrong was I?

80 posted on 05/13/2007 12:17:41 PM PDT by dragnet2
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