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To: Hydroshock
This RINO will tear the party apart.

Only if you define SoCons as the party. What happens if a new version of the GOP is crafted that appeals even more to the center?

Politics is simply calculus writ large. The only question relevant to Rudy is simply: can he attract more from the left than he loses on the right?

With NY, CA & FL lined up with early primaries, this strategy has every chance of winning. So then the next shoe drops: what do SoCons do? Form a 3rd party?

23 posted on 05/12/2007 4:18:30 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: Chuck Dent

Then it is a third party for me if Rino Rudy is nominated.


26 posted on 05/12/2007 4:45:56 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Chuck Dent
Only if you define SoCons as the party. What happens if a new version of the GOP is crafted that appeals even more to the center?

The Gang of 14 basically controls the left and right in the Senate regarding judicial nominations.

However, that only works because of the 60 vote cloture rule. It won't work with a simple majority. IMO the center is only about 25-30 percent of the electorate. They are the swing vote in presidential elections, but they are not enough in their own right to win either a nomination or the general.

52 posted on 05/12/2007 6:08:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: Chuck Dent
“Politics is simply calculus writ large. The only question relevant to Rudy is simply: can he attract more from the left than he loses on the right?

With NY, CA & FL lined up with early primaries, this strategy has every chance of winning. So then the next shoe drops: what do SoCons do? Form a 3rd party?”

Bla Bla Bla. Rooty is a moron and his political advisers don’t have brains enough to pound sand in a rat hole.

Rooty is pro abortion, pro queer agenda, and anti gun.

Those are all hot button issues that are a deal breaker for a vast majority of the population.

You can’t find 10% of the population on either side of the isle that agrees with him on all of those issues but there is way over 50% that would vote against him because of that combination or even one of them.

That doesn’t even count his other problems of illegal sanctuary cities and being an authoritarian jerk.

More that 50% of the Rats are against gun control and the queer agenda and its much higher on the Republican side.

Now that the greasy little weasel has come out and admitted what his core beliefs are the dummies that didn’t believe it before will stop supporting him.

He has no redeeming qualities that aren’t found in much better candidates at an even greater degree.

Stick a fork in that liberal puke, he’s done.

57 posted on 05/12/2007 6:42:50 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Chuck Dent
“Only if you define SoCons as the party.”

I don’t define gun-grabbing autocrats as “the party”. Do you?

“What happens if a new version of the GOP is crafted that appeals even more to the center?”

Then we’ll go elsewhere. A Republican Party that moves that far to the left (Guiliani is no “centrist”) is no longer worthy of the time of day, let alone money and votes.

69 posted on 05/12/2007 9:16:19 AM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: Chuck Dent

The center? Say what you really mean, the left.


71 posted on 05/12/2007 9:24:07 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Chuck Dent

This RINO will tear the party apart.

Only if you define SoCons as the party. What happens if a new version of the GOP is crafted that appeals even more to the center?

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We ARE the center ,, it’s the party thats moved away from us on so many occasions .. abortion isn’t just a despicable act of brutality on another human being (no matter what life stage that human is at) it is the defining point of the republican party ,, we were the party of Lincoln ,, and although the civil war was really more about enlarging the role of the federal gov’t and maintaining punitive tariffs on goods imported by the south than in freeing the slaves that is one of our core principles , respect for all humans ,, whereas the dems fought to keep the black man as slave with crazy rules about the admission of new states and such.. we cannot ignore the abortion issue , it has resulted in 48 million deaths so far just in the US , far bigger than the slavery issue of the 1800’s ,,, it is a poison that enables socialism to creep with more ease as the women (and their “men”) who do abort put up defensive walls that last a lifetime where they fight to justify their actions and align themselves with the other related socialist party planks...


83 posted on 05/13/2007 3:23:04 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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